Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Jobs. Love them or hate them, most of us can't live without them. The unemployment rate has been climbing over the past few years, but we keep hearing that historically it isn't that high. Even so, some people have been talking about having a really, really tough time finding work. There's been reporting that some people are sending out hundreds of resumes with no offers in sight.
Here's listener Jordan Redwine, who called in.
Chapter 2: What is the current state of the job market?
I'm not even an entry-level person in my industry. I've been just pounding the pavements and just doing stonewalled, stonewalled, stonewalled.
There is so, so much AI involved in this process now, and you're increasingly just up against, like, such an icy void.
Wait, look, I see you wincing. I've been reduced to noises. I don't even know what to say.
This is None Employment. For the next few weeks, we're breaking down why getting a job and keeping it feels so hard right now, and how our ideas about employment just aren't matching up with today's realities. In this episode, we're getting into the job market, why the decent macroeconomic numbers aren't adding up for job seekers, and why everyone might be stuck in an AI doom loop.
I'm joined by Waylon Wong, co-host of NPR's Indicator podcast. Thanks for having us. And Nitish Pawar, staff writer for business and tech at Slate.
Thank you.
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Chapter 3: Why are job seekers struggling despite low unemployment rates?
Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. Okay, first of all, what is going on in the job market right now? Like, how are things looking? They're looking a little weird, I would say. People are saying this. People are saying this.
I mean, empirically, what's happening is that we are really seeing the pace of job creation, job growth, slow down. Looking still positive, but not... really blockbuster numbers. And at the same time, you're not seeing a huge increase in the unemployment rate. And so that's why people call this, you know, a low, higher, low fire.
Practically what that means is that if you have a job, you're probably okay. And that if you're looking for a job, then it probably feels really lousy to be out in the labor market right now looking for a job. Things are just kind of stuck.
Yeah, I mean, I think Waylon nailed it. I think one way you can definitely describe it is just very slow. I mean, the economy is just at a sluggish rate, and it has been going that way for a while now. I mean, not least thanks in part to high interest rates.
People generally, no matter what sector they're in, they're hesitant to invest too much in new hires, and they're also hesitant to take on, say, hires who require more resources, like, say, Maybe you want someone who's a lower paid entry level position, but you don't want to put in all the time and money into training them.
There's a lot of just trying to not take too many risks or not grow too fast and such in this time when no one really knows what the economic situation may look like even three months from now.
Now, one thing I'll note is that we keep hearing this statistic that unemployment is low. As true as that number may be, I still feel like so much conversation in the media, on social media, with people I know is really focused on unemployment and underemployment. I feel like a lot of people are experiencing a really tough time. Mm-hmm.
I think that when you hear the headline unemployment figure, that is the broadest possible measure of unemployment. And it's when you drill down into some more specific categories of how workers are doing that it becomes clear why certain workers are feeling perhaps worse than others.
And so, for example, you know, the black unemployment rate, it's always historically been higher than the mainline unemployment rate. And because you had all of the public sector cuts from Doge at the beginning of last year, Black workers are kind of disproportionately represented in the public sector workforce.
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