It’s Episode 18! Welcome back to the Jo’s Art History Podcast. This week, I sit down with Art Historian and artist Ally Zlatar for a really thought provoking discussion all around the use of animals in contemporary art and the moral questions this can provoke. From artists living in pig pens and floating sharks in tanks; to fish in blenders and painted elephants. Ally and I talk about the lack of clarity around using both live and dead animals in art and the questions around the ethics and morality of using animals in such a way raise. We explore if it is ever ok to kill an animal for the sake of art and why these works, although shocking are really, really, important at making us not only reflect on our values, but think about on how we take action against certain things, but not others! I want to thank Ally for bringing to my attention this area of art history, theory and philosophy - it’s a really thought provoking episode and starts a very important conversation around some VERY big questions. Guest: Ally Zlatar Instagram: @allycardone Website: https://allyzlatar.cargo.site/ Email: [email protected] Host: Jo McLaughlin Instagram: @josarthistory Website: www.josarthistory.com All images discussed are available on my website and Instagram: Artworks: Miru Kim, The Pig That Therefore I Am. Photo Series. 2010. Doosan Gallery. New York. Hirst, Damien (1991) The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind, [Installation: Glass, steel, silicon, formaldehyde and shark] 217 x 542 x 180 cm. Evaristti, Marco (2000) Helena, [Moulinex Optiblend 2000 electric blenders, live goldfish, Further reading: Artsy Article: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-animals-art Muri Kim: https://www.designboom.com/art/miru-kim-the-pig-that-therefore-i-am/ https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/art-basel-miami-2011-muri-kim_n_1124033?ri18n=true&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jb25zZW50LnlhaG9vLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALv2tfE25jGgprrbOLI5GoNULgL3LYAjtz-e1rzczMaBkaVfv43EyHKcsHjQm5iEYtnKdqV3nU2civgkWggo8BSHpyPwdT1lOB9soWl4DcbB4Xn8lEhXwVM_bWXxptilQRBL7qFE-E6eTWt1B4WfzTgnpEXAO9ozk-FcJktZvHHj Damien Hirst: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physical_Impossibility_of_Death_in_the_Mind_of_Someone_Living https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/apr/18/damien-hirst-butterflies-weirdly-uplifting Marco Evaristti: This is the interview and then Goldfish thread which I talk about during the podcast: https://mbf.blogs.com/files/evaristti-helena.pdf Banksy Elephant: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/sep/18/arts.artsnews Please make sure to like, rate and subscribe to the Jo's Art History Podcast!

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