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Chapter 1: Who is Dana White and why is he a prominent figure in sports?
Welcome to Chloe in Wonderland. Today's guest is the one and only Dana White, the unapologetic force behind one of the biggest sports empires in the world. Why do you think fighting is so universal?
Chapter 2: How did Dana White demonstrate loyalty during the COVID-19 pandemic?
It's just something inside us as human beings. We are fascinated by who the toughest person in the world is. We are all drawn to it. You don't find out who's who and what's what until it hits the fan. Here comes COVID and you're looking at laying off 38% of the staff. There's no way in hell that I was going to let that happen.
You can only be canceled if you allow people that you don't give a shit about to cancel you. Right. You have a core that you care about that are your people. I mean, if they cancel you, that's a whole nother story. Right. And then you should. Who gives a shit what everybody else thinks?
I agree. Thank you for coming all the way from Vegas. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. My brother is so excited. He was telling me all about your slap boxing and all that kind of stuff.
So he's big. I haven't seen your brother in a minute. It's been a long time since I've seen your brother.
yeah probably over 10 years oh my god yeah my brother loves to be a little elusive so he is I call him like the wizard from the Wizard of Oz because he likes to be behind the curtain right we all live in the same gated area so he lives right next door to me but he I we were working out together and I said I was going to see you this week and he was broing out for sure and telling me all these stats I'm like okay well I'm not going to retain all of that but he's obsessed with you
But I am such a fan of yours, but maybe for different reasons than most of your normal fans. Thank you. I am such a fan of, I think, number one, your loyalty just to people. And this is all from afar. I don't know you on a personal level. Right. But I think if anyone pays attention to you or sees clips of you, your loyalty is unmatched and it comes through the screen.
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Chapter 3: What role does loyalty play in Dana White's personal and professional life?
Thank you.
Something that I read about you is during COVID when everyone was laying people off, people were losing their jobs left and right, that you were like, fuck it. I'm not or fuck you. I'm not going to lay anybody off. Everyone's going to keep their jobs. And if I read correctly, you were going to take a pay cut in order for everyone to keep theirs.
not a pay cut, I was gonna give up my salary and bonus. If I was wrong and we couldn't go through, because I was gonna go through COVID no matter what. And actually COVID is the perfect example of loyalty. And you don't find out who's who and what's what until the shit hits the fan, right? We all love each other and we're here until you hit hard times in any relationship.
You don't find out until you hit hard times and sponsors too. I don't even want to be with a sponsor that I'm not aligned with and that, you know, in as many ways as possible. Cause I had some sponsors going through COVID that were nightmares. Um, and paying us big money, but absolute nightmares. I wouldn't sign a deal with them again if they tripled the number, seriously.
But yeah, so after we did the Ultimate Fighter, the UFC was this rocket ship of success and we're all working hard and doing our thing. And we throw these unbelievable Christmas parties every year for the team. Yeah, it's an HR nightmare. Like, I encourage everybody to get drunk and have a blast. And, you know, they're fun. We've had, like...
the red hot chili peppers play at our Christmas parties. Snoop, you name them. We've had everybody play and it's a blast. And I get up there every year and tell my team how much I love them and how much they mean to me and all this stuff. So then here comes COVID and probably the scariest time in our lifetime. And you're looking at laying off 38% of the staff.
Yeah.
Right. Oh, you love us, but, and we're so important to you. And now here's the scariest time that there's no way in hell that I was going to let that happen. No way in hell. We were either going to figure this out or we were going to all go down together.
So, um, yeah, I, I put up my, my salary and my bonus if I was wrong and we couldn't make it through COVID then, you know, then the company didn't take the, take the hit.
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Chapter 4: How does Dana White balance toughness and loyalty in his leadership style?
Thank you.
And still being able to be a bad, badass businessman. Like that's how my dad was. And I don't know if you get enough credit for that. I think people talk about your loyalty a lot.
It's important to me. If you don't have loyalty, what do you have? I mean, really, what do you have? If you can't trust the people you're around and with, and I mean, my people at UFC, a lot of them have been with me for, you know, the girl who's out in the hallway right now, my... My head of PR has been with me forever. And we're all tight.
These are the people that I work with every day and travel with and do everything with. And yeah, we're all incredibly loyal to each other. Loyalty is a two way street. So they've been very loyal to me and I've been very loyal to them.
It is. And, but you still have this presence about you. That's like, don't fuck with me, but I'm gonna ride for you if you ride for me. And how do you find that balance or what is that balance?
I don't know. It's, I think that, I think that anything in life, like you see a lot of these people that, that work for companies and you give so much of yourself, uh,
when you work, time, energy, sacrifice, things you miss, you know, everybody has their things in their life, whether it's your kids, you miss the first step, you miss plays, you miss practices, you miss games, all these things for, you know, you have to make a living, but you're doing it for this company and you start to feel
a sense of loyalty to either the people you work for the place you work for whatever it is and when that loyalty isn't reciprocated it's a shitty feeling like my offices in Vegas I have this massive closet in there with all my clothes and all my you know all your shit that you want whether you want to change or you work out or you do whatever have a crazy gym spy you know I do all this
you know coal plunging and sauna I've literally the whole setup there I have the entire setup at my house too so there's never any excuses on why you can't do it um but you spend most of your time at work right you at least want to love the people that you go to work with every day and you know yeah hopefully you care about them in some way shape or form and they feel the same way about you
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Chapter 5: What is Dana White’s family life like and how does it influence him?
I was married to a New Yorker, and it's just a different vibe and energy.
Yeah, I'm lucky because I got the best of both worlds. I had East Coast and West Coast growing up. So yeah, I wouldn't change that in a million years. I'm really lucky that I had both.
Yeah, I think it's the best. I really do. Your family unity and like your love for your kids. You have two sons and a daughter, correct? Yeah. How old are your kids?
So my boys are 22 and 23 and my daughter's 18.
That poor daughter.
Yeah. No, it's good for her. No, it's great for her. She's well protected.
That's what I mean. It's great for her. But I don't know if I would want to be between 16 to 20 being your kid or having brothers. I'm sure your sons are viciously protective of her.
Built-in security. I love it. It's perfect. It couldn't have worked out any better at that age. I had two boys older than her and then my wife had a tubular pregnancy. So her tube burst and her other tube was kinked and they said that she couldn't have any more kids. So we had two boys, we were good. And then we were in Cabo and she didn't feel good and she was feeling sick.
And ended up, she was pregnant with my daughter. No way. And me and my daughter are super tight. We just flew to, she's going to the University of Miami. Oh, nice. Congratulations. We just went and toured the campus on Monday. And yeah, she's living down in San Diego. She loves it down there. We were on vacation in Italy and she busts out with, I want to move to San Diego and go to Cathedral.
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Chapter 6: How has Dana White’s upbringing shaped his personality and values?
Yeah. Yeah. I'm a couple months away.
That's a trip. Yeah. I don't know if I'm going to like being an empty nester.
Yeah. You won't. I can guarantee it. I won't. You and your whole family live in the same cul-de-sac. You're definitely not going to like being an empty nester.
No, I'll probably shave my head and go nuts or something or buy a ton of animals.
Or buy the houses next door to you and they'll live there.
Well, what I think I'm doing now is I'm sort of brainwashing my kids to think this is normal to live next to your mom. So then when I'm old enough, they're just going to think this is what you're supposed to do. That's awesome. A little brainwashing is fine.
There's nothing wrong with that. No. And it's awesome that you have a tight family when you think about the fact that you guys film together, work together, do everything together and still have such a great relationship. It's amazing.
We have our moments that we want to kill each other, but we always come back. Yes. And that's something that our dad really instilled in us. My dad's Armenian, and I really think there's a lot of that culture that's just embedded in you. It doesn't matter. You figure it out. The people, they're like, I haven't spoke to my sister in three years. That would never be us.
It's just not an option for us. And then when my dad died, my mom still instilled the same ethics and morals that my dad was building in us.
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Chapter 7: What are Dana White’s views on retirement and staying mentally active?
Yeah. That's my whole deal.
That is very much my mom. And I think that quality in people can't really be learned. I think you're born like that.
Yeah.
And you just innately have this desire to always figure shit out.
Yeah. And you have to love to get in the pocket and love stress. And it's a very sick, weird thing. It's like if everything's going too smooth, I sort of have to shake shit up and create more problems.
Well, knowing that you're that type of person, do you think you're ever going to retire? No. Right. No. I don't think so either. I can't imagine it. I can't imagine my mom retiring either. I think you need that stimulation mentally. And I also think that once people do retire and your brain isn't working, that's when your body really slows down. Exactly.
true i've heard that i don't know that for a fact but i've heard it and uh you know when you talk about retiring and me retiring i'm taking on more shit every day instead of retiring it's right um like the ufc isn't enough that's that's not enough of a job to do um now i'm doing you know like your brother told you power slap i got uh boxing now i was in boxing meetings all day yesterday um yeah so keep piling it on i love it
Yeah. I think the more, the better. And it keeps you distracted from life and just keeps you going. I think people who work more, like if they love to work, if it's healthy for them mentally, that they live longer.
Well, you know this too. You've taken your health serious over the last several years. That's a full-time job. Jesus Christ. I mean, you start cold plunging and sauna and all the other biohacking shit. I mean, it eats up half your day.
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Chapter 8: How does Dana White approach health, biohacking, and longevity?
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Chapter 9: What are some behind-the-scenes stories from Dana White’s career in UFC?
I can't do it.
A lot of people. It's funny how tough it is for a lot of people. In the beginning, when you first start, but then it becomes an absolute addiction, like You gotta know somebody that can't start their day without coffee, right? I can't start my day without cold plunge. And if I do, I feel like shit. And as soon as I land anywhere, I go right to a cold plunge. I'm flying from here to Austin.
I'll have a cold plunge in Austin.
Oh, that's amazing. They say it's better for you even than sauna, the cold plunge. People are now saying it's the best thing for you. It's just fucking hard to get in that water.
It's legit. I'm going to point out, no matter where I go, it could be 35 degrees. It could be 50 degrees. It doesn't bother me at all. I can do any temperature.
Fuck.
Yeah, I love it.
God, you really are a beast. It's amazing. What is an insane behind the scenes story with some fighters?
Oh, man. I mean, there's been some I've been doing this for I've been in the business for 30 years. I've been doing this for like 25 years. But there's there's so many crazy stories. I mean, this business, the behind the scenes is is where all the crazy shit happens and negotiations and interactions with these guys fight night backstage, you know, when when crazy shit happens and
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