Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, welcome back to another episode of the Leading Yourself podcast. Last week, we walked through the energy audit, tracking what energizes you versus what drains you. A lot of you found it insightful, and now you probably have some follow-up questions like, okay, what do I do with this? I see that 70% of my week drains me, but I don't know what to do with it.
I can't quit my job or I know what energizes me, but my calendar doesn't reflect that. How can I change that? Or you were left feeling that this is bigger than your day to day. It feels more about your whole career. And you are right, because here's what I've come to understand. And let me tell you, it took me years to get to this level of clarity.
Chapter 2: How do you conduct an energy audit for your career?
Energy isn't just about managing your day, it's about designing your career. And most of us have been thinking about career progression all wrong. We've been asking, what's the next title? What's the next level? What looks impressive? When we should be asking things like, what kind of work actually sustains me? Where do I come alive? What can I do for the next 10 years without burning out?
So today we're going deeper, not just how to manage your energy day to day, but how to use your energy as your career navigation system. Are you ready? Let's go.
Welcome to the Leading Yourself Podcast. This is your host, Carolina de Arriba. I'm an HR professional, coach, wife, mom, and above all things, a goal getter. In this podcast, we're going to be digging into all things leadership, professional and career development, habits, and relationships. This is a podcast for those who want to become the best version of themselves.
Those who have big dreams and are willing to embrace the journey and put in the work to achieve them. My goal is to share with you the tools, tips, and tricks to help you in your journey. So let's dig in into today's episode.
I want to tell you today about a version of myself that I'm not particularly proud of. A few years ago, I was objectively successful. Good role, good title, good trajectory. I had my time management dialed in. My calendar was color-coded. My tasks were badged. I was the most productive person that I knew, and I was completely miserable. I woke up
already dreading my day, not because anything was wrong, but because I knew exactly what was waiting for me. Eight hours of back-to-back meetings, operational reviews, budget discussions, process optimization, all things I was good at, really good at actually. My manager loved my work. I got great performance reviews. I was being groomed for the next level. But I get to 3 p.m.
and I felt like I had run a marathon. Not the good kind of tired, the depleted kind of tired. The kind where you have nothing left for your family, where you can't think straight, where even making dinner feels like too much. And I kept thinking, this is just a busy season. It will get better. But it didn't. Because the problem wasn't the pace.
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Chapter 3: What are the four types of work and their impact on energy?
It wasn't The hours. It was the fact that I was spending 80% of my week doing work that drained me. Work I was competent at. Work that I deliver well. Work that looked impressive from the outside. But it wasn't my work. It wasn't work that used my natural strength. It wasn't work that energized me. It wasn't work that I could sustain. And here's what I miss for way too long.
Time management was never going to solve this. I could optimize my schedules or batch my tasks perfectly. I could be incredibly efficient, but efficiency at doing the wrong work just gets you to burn out faster. What I needed wasn't better time management. It was better energy allocation. And I had to learn the hard way what that actually meant.
See, I thought energy was about endurance, about pushing through, about being resilient enough to handle whatever came my way. So I kept trying to build more capacity, more resiliency, more grit. But that's like trying to run a marathon in shoes that don't fit. You can train all that you want, but if your shoes are wrong, you're going to get hurt.
The real question wasn't, how do I build more endurance? It was, am I even running the right race? And that's what we're going to unpack today. Not how to do more, but how to do the right things, the things that actually sustain you. Because I don't want you to wake up five years from now, objectively successful and completely depleted, wondering how you got there.
After I realized that I was efficient but exhausted, I stopped evaluating my days by output and I started evaluating them by energy. Not how many meetings I had or how many initiatives our team moved forward, not how many fires I put out, but how I felt after different kinds of work. And something became very clear. Not all work costs me the same.
Some work drains me, even when I'm exceptionally good at it. Some work really energizes me, even when it's complex and demanding. Some work stretches me in a way that feels expansive. And some work simply shouldn't be done by me at all. Over time, I've started mapping it. Two variables. Am I good at it? And how does it energize me? When you cross skill and energy, you get four zones.
And where you spend your time across those zones determines everything. Your leadership effectiveness, your long-term sustainability, your fulfillment, your growth trajectory. So today I want to walk you through all those four quadrants. The first one is the genius zone. This is work that you're good at and at the same time energizes you.
This is work where you feel like you're operating at your best. It uses your natural strengths. Time disappears, you're in flow. For me, this is coaching conversations, strategic thinking, connecting dots that other people don't see. When I'm doing this work, I can go for hours and finish with more energy than when I started. Not because it's easy, but because it's aligned.
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Chapter 4: Why is the Excellence Zone considered dangerous for high performers?
And here's what I've learned. This isn't just work that feels good. It's work where I create the most value with the least effort. My output quality is higher, my creativity is sharper, my impact is bigger. This is where I'm supposed to be spending my time. The second zone It's where you're good at something, but that thing drains you. And this is the tricky one.
This is work you're really good at, maybe even excellent at. People praise you for your work. You get promoted because of this work. You're known because of it, but it's absolutely draining you. For me, these are things like operational management, detail execution, project coordination. I can do it well. I have done it really well. But it cost me everything. After a day in this zone, I'm hollow.
I have nothing left. And here's the dangerous part. Because you're so good at this work, people keep giving you more of it. Your manager sees that you excel and thinks, great, let's give her more operational responsibility. You get promoted based on your competence level here. And before you know it, your entire career is built on work that depletes you. This is where burnout leaves.
Not in the work you're bad at, in the work that you're good at but drains you away. I see this constantly with high performers. They're succeeding at work that slowly is killing them. And they don't know how to get out because they've built their entire reputation around this work. The third zone is the learning zone. This is an area where you're not good at it yet, but energizes you.
This is work that you're still figuring out. You're not an expert level by any means. You're still developing the skills, but you're fascinated by it. You want to get better. For me, earlier in my career, that was public speaking, facilitating workshops, creating frameworks. I was terrible at first, like objectively bad, but I loved it. I wanted to improve.
I was energized by the challenge, so I kept doing that. And over time, some of that work moved into my genius zone. Now my learning zone has to do probably with AI. Like it really energizes me and I'm super curious and I want to learn more. But I'm far away from being an expert at anything related with AI at this point. Here's what I've learned. The learning zone is where you build your future.
It's where you discover new strengths, where you expand what is possible. You need some time here, not 50%. That can be overwhelming, but between 10 and 15% of your time should be spent in your learning zone. Enough to keep growing, enough to stay engaged, enough to future-proof your career. The last zone is the frustration zone. This is work you're bad at and at the same time drains you.
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Chapter 5: How can you evaluate a career opportunity effectively?
For me, these are like highly technical execution, like very detailed, extremely detailed data manipulation. I can muddle through eventually, but it's painful. It takes me forever and the results are mediocre. And after doing this kind of work for some time, I'm just exhausted. This one for me is easy. You shouldn't be doing this work. Delegate it, outsource it, eliminate it.
Every hour that you spend in your frustration zone is time that you're not spending in your genius zone. And that is just bad math. So here's a question that changed everything for me. Where am I actually spending my time? I pull up my calendar, I went through every meeting, every task, every project, and I categorize it with radical honesty.
Genius zone, excellence zone, learning zone, or frustration zone. Want to know what I found? Well, at the time I did this for the first time, I was spending 15% in my genius zone, the work that I was made to do. 70% of my time was on the excellent zone, work that I was really good at, but it was draining me. 5% in my learning zone, barely any growth. And 10% frustration zone.
Work that I had no business doing. No wonder why I was miserable. I was spending 80% of my week in work that depleted me. And here's what I realized. No amount of time management was going to fix that. I needed to redesign how I was working and eventually what I was working on. That's what I want to talk to you about next. Let me tell you about a career decision I almost get really wrong.
This was over 10 years ago. I was being considered for this director role of HR operations, a big step up for me at the time. The recruiter call, my manager was excited. Everyone was telling me, this is the opportunity. This is your next move. And on paper, it made perfect sense.
bigger title, more influence, significant pay increase, high visibility, everything you're supposed to want in a promotion. But I had this like weird feeling in my stomach, not excitement, but dread. And I couldn't figure out why. Nothing was technically wrong with the opportunity. So I did something that I had never done before. I mapped out what the role would actually look like day by day.
I talked to people doing similar roles. I asked questions. what they spent their time on. I got really specific. And then I categorize all that feedback I got into the four zones based on my perspective, right? On what I'm good at, what I'm not good at, what energized me and what didn't energize me. And here's what I found.
This job that this big, amazing opportunity that everyone was telling me was the perfect next move in my career would have me spending maybe 15% in my genius zone, like a strategic planning, team development, the parts that I actually love. 70% of my time was going to be spent in the excellent zone.
Operational execution, budget management, process optimization, compliance reporting, all of those things. All things that I could do well, that I had done well, but that drained me completely. The learning zone was going to be, my estimate, about 5%.
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Chapter 6: What are the three critical questions to ask before accepting a new role?
Some new systems, some minimal growth. And the frustration zone was was going to be like 10% detailed reporting that, I don't know, I was not excited at all about. I thought with those numbers for a week. And I kept coming back to the same question. Can I sustain a role where 80% of my time is spent in work that drains me?
Even if I'm good at it, even if it's impressive, even if it's paid well, could I do this for two, three, five years? And the honest answer was no, especially after I had the experience that I just share with you. Right. I knew I was going to burn out. I was going to be miserable and I would start resenting the work. And probably I would eventually leave.
But only after damaging my health, my relationships, and my sense of self. So I did something that felt terrifying at the time. I mean, I was in my... Late 20s, early 30s, I was in a point in my career where I was still very much people pleasing, very much influenced by other people's opinions and thoughts of what I should do or not do.
I wanted to create a good impression in my boss, with my family, with everyone. But I did turn it down. And I had to explain to my manager, to my mentor, to my family why I was saying no to what everyone else saw was a great opportunity. It was not aligned with where I created the most value. I would move away from my strengths instead of moving towards them.
I would rather find a role where I can spend most of my time doing the work that energizes me. Some people got it. Some people thought that I was completely crazy. But here's what happened next. A few months later, a different opportunity came up and I took on a director role of HR supporting one of the largest divisions in our business. And I did the same exercise. I map it out the same way.
Genius zone, 65% according to my Rough estimate. A lot of strategic thinking, partnering with senior business leaders, connecting business transformation with people strategy, coaching, building frameworks, leadership development, all the things that I'm good at and energize me. The excellence zone was about 25%. There was some operational coordination that I couldn't fully avoid.
But I mean, 25% compared to the 70% that the other job represented, it was heaven. The learning zone was, I would say, 10%. There were new stakeholder dynamics that I was going to learn. There were bigger transformational challenges that really excited and terrified me at the same time. I was going to be able to learn more about organizational design, and that really excited me as well.
And the frustration zone was almost none. It was very low. Of course, I do believe that there is no perfect job, just like there's no perfect company. There's always going to be aspects of our job that we don't like and that drain us, right? There's always going to be some element of frustration zone, but it was so minimal. And I took the role. So I took the role.
And I find myself not just succeeding, but thriving. I had energy at the end of the day. I was creative. I was making impact in ways that felt aligned. And do you know what happened?
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Chapter 7: How can you protect your Genius Zone in your work life?
A few years later, I got promoted again, this time to an even better role. One that was like 70% genius though. Because when you're working in your strengths, your impact is undeniable. People notice. Opportunities follow your energy. So here's what I want you to take from this. Not every opportunity that looks good is good. Not every promotion moves you in the right direction.
Sometimes the most strategic career move is saying no to the impressive thing and waiting for the aligned thing. And here's how you can evaluate that. When you're considering any career opportunity, a promotion, a new role, a big project, don't just ask, is this a step up? Does it pay more? Does it look good? Instead, ask yourself, how much of this role is genius zone work for me?
How much is excellent zone work that will drain me? Is there meaningful learning zone opportunities? Can I see a path of increasing my genius zone percentage over time? If the answer to the last question is yes, even if it starts, I don't know, at 40%, you can build towards alignment. But if it's a structurally 70% excellent zone with no path to change that, be really, really careful.
Here's what I've learned. You cannot willpower your way through work that drains you long term. You can do it for a season, for a specific purpose, with an exit strategy. But if you build a career based on your excellent zone, you will burn out. And all the impressive titles and the big paychecks won't matter if you're too depleted to enjoy any of it.
So let me give you three questions that you can ask yourself before you say yes to your next opportunity. Question number one, will this role allow me to spend the majority of my time in my genius zone? If it's yes, explore it. If it's not, understand the cost and decide if you're willing to pay that cost.
Question number two, does this role have meaningful learning zone opportunities that actually excite me? If you're taking a role that's 40% genius, 30% excellence, but 20% learning in areas you're generally curious about, that can work because growth energizes you. But if there's no growth, just grinding, that's a red flag.
Question number three, can I see a path to increase my genius zone percentage over time? Sometimes you take a role with a lower genius zone with the understanding that in a year you can delegate the excellence work and shift to a higher percentage, let's say a 60%. That's a strategic. But if you're locked at 70% excellence with no flexibility, think twice about that opportunity.
Here's the career mistake that I see over and over. People accept promotions that move them away from the genius zone. They were amazing individual contributors. They love their craft. They were in flow. And then they got promoted to managers. And now they're spending 70% of their time on people issues, performance reviews, managing budgets.
They went from doing work they love to managing other people doing the work that they love. And they're miserable. Not because they're bad at management, but because it's not where they come alive. That's not failure. That is a mismatch. And the solution isn't to try harder or be more grateful.
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Chapter 8: What does aligned success look like in your career?
All right, so you've identified your four zones. You understand the career framework. Now, how do you actually change your current reality? That is the key question. And I wanna share with you four strategic moves to reallocate your energy, both in your current role and in career trajectory. Move number one, protect your genius zone like if it's your job, because it is.
Your genius zone work isn't a bonus. It's not what you do if you have time. It's your highest leverage work. It's where you create the most value, where you're most effective, where you're most fulfilled. So you have to protect it. Here's how. Block it in your calendar first. Not after everything else is scheduled. First, treat it like a meeting with your CEO that cannot be moved.
For me, that is Monday mornings from 9 to 12. I have a block that I protect where I do genius zone work. That's when I do a strategic work.
I have other blocks throughout the week to do things like coaching or work that aligns more with the things that I like to do, like building people strategies and talent strategies or working on succession planning or connecting with talents and having career conversations. Say no to anything that conflicts with your zone work. I'm not available during that time. I can do other times, right?
Most people will work around your boundaries if you're clear about them. Batch your zone work. Don't scatter it through the week in 30 minute increments. Block two to three hour chunks. Flow state takes time to reach. If you're constantly interrupted, you will never get there. Here's what I tell a lot of people that I coach. If you only had 10 hours a week to work, what would you do?
That's your genius zone. Protect those 10 hours first, then feel everything else around it. You know, in the seven habits of highly effective people, habit three, put first things first, teaches all about this. What are your big rocks and how you make sure you schedule your big rocks first so then the gravel can fall in between those big rocks. That's exactly what I'm talking about right here.
Move number two, strategically reduce your excellent zone work. This is the hardest one because you're excellent at this work. People rely on you for it. You get praise for it. You get promoted for it, but it drains you. Here are your options. The first option is delegated to someone for whom that kind of work is their genius work.
That operational work that drains you, that might be someone else's genius work. That detailed execution that you tolerate, someone else might love it. Start delegating based on energy alignment, not just skill level. Ask yourself, who would be energized by this work? Not just who is capable of doing it. Your second option is to redesign your role over time.
You might not be able to eliminate excellence work immediately, but can you shift the ratio over the next six to 12 months? Talk to your manager. Say, I've noticed I'm most effective when I'm doing X. Can we explore ways to increase that and reduce why? Most good managers want you in your genius zone too because that's where you create the most value for the organization.
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