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Chapter 1: What wedding experience did Hunter have in Boston?
Peyton, I returned to the place where we met. The good old city. I went back to a little small town called Boston. And let me tell you, it hasn't changed. Yeah. Nothing in Boston ever does. I was in Boston for a wedding. Actually, one of the more beautiful weddings I've ever been to. It was at the public library. Cute. It was a Catholic wedding. It was full cathedral, really stunning.
I lost my octave buddy night one. And I was like, oh my God, my octave buddy would go crazy on these stained glass windows in this cathedral. So like, let's fast forward to like wedding day. I'm at the reception. The bride is like, listen, I love, let me say this. I love you and Peyton. You guys are so raunchy. It's so fun. I can't get enough. Yeah. Taste.
And then she says, but what's Peyton's dating life like? I never hear about that. I said, I was gagged. I said, let me, I'll deliver the message.
Wait, not you being like, and we're actually gonna do it live on podcast. I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell you separately. Not you trying to...
be up in my business I'm not calling you out I'm calling you in that's not what this is that's not what this is for okay wait I do need to go back for a second though which is because I'm distracting and I'm avoiding which what I do best um which is you saying one of the nicest weddings you've ever been to is such high praise considering you have been to 525,600 weddings
So that's a huge compliment.
Yeah, totally. Totally. No, it was really, really beautiful. Because I hadn't been into the public library since I left, since I escaped with my life narrowly in the city of Boston.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was so stunning and beautiful at night, like with like the lights all done up and stuff. And then also the cathedral was really beautiful. And the like dinner reception was in like the main library. So we were like at the tables.
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Chapter 2: What does Peyton think about Anna Kendrick's movie?
You're like, no, no, we were in the what is it? 72 hour window like we can fix this. You were kind of what is that girl from Shonda Rhimes who's always with her purse and her attitude? Oh, the white girl who was on Gilmore Girls? No, Kerry Washington. Scandal. Oh, oh, okay. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are kind of the Olivia Pope of my uterus. The way you said, we can fix this.
I'm the, I am the Van Zandt. I said, not on my watch. Okay, not on my watch. Hunter's like, it's going to be my problem. I had my little long chomp and we went to CVS. I said, come on, get in.
And then our friend like took a selfie to document the moment. Yeah. Nothing has been more pathetic than that photo. But thank you. I'm glad you visited some historical grounds in Boston, Massachusetts.
Yeah. And what were you doing other than not answering a listener request?
Which I'm still not doing. Imagine like hard launching on this podcast. Actually, I would. That's so capitalist. It's so me.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How did Anna Kendrick's directorial debut fare?
I would be like, I would actually, my friend once told me that I would hard launch with like a brand deal. And I was like, fuck you. Thank you. Do you have any ideas? Call me if you do. But what did I do? I don't know. I feel like I've been recovering from a hangover since 1995. So 1994, actually, technically when I was born.
Lord have mercy. Well, nothing good. I will keep you in my thoughts. Oh, no, I've got a bone to pick with you. Why? Because you made me watch that Anna Kendrick movie, Woman of the Hour. Woman of the Sour Puss, which is what I was.
Well, you shouldn't have a bone to pick with me. You need a bone to pick with the community that told me it was good. But more on that later.
Not all this deflection. OK, we're talking about Woman of the Hour. We're talking about the Megan Thee Stallion documentary and her words now streaming on Prime and the enduring power.
And let's say the very lesbian power of Tom Holland and Zendaya. And don't forget, we have a bonus segment that drops every Thursday only on Wondery+. This week, we're talking about things we are very, very late to, but we love so much. So subscribe to Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts to check that out.
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Chapter 4: What are the themes of the Megan Thee Stallion documentary?
Chapter 5: What connection do Zendaya and Tom Holland have?
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I only have one special and perfect time on this earth, and I unfortunately wasted about an hour and a half of it watching the new movie directed by and starring Anna Kendrick, showing on Netflix, Woman of the Hour. And it's that Woman of the Hour right there, Peyton Dix, who made me watch it. Spoiler alert for this movie. We will be going into depth about what happens.
Fast forward 50 minutes.
Yeah. Just go ahead and do that, honestly, already. Whether you've seen it or not, whether you plan to or not. Okay. Why don't you tell us what this movie is about?
Right. The stranger than fiction story of an aspiring actor in around like the 1970s in Los Angeles and a serial killer in the midst of a years-long murder spree. We're talking allegedly up to almost 130 murders committed, rapes and murders, actually, of multiple women. And their lives, they intersect when they're both cast on an episode of The Dating Game.
This is Anna Kendrick's directorial debut. And I think we could leave it at that one and done. For the record, let me clear my name. Because I do, I proudly say I have bad taste. I do have bad taste. But in things that are at least fun, at least we're having fun. I, what's that tweet that's like, I said it was my favorite movie. I didn't say it was good. That's normally how I go.
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Chapter 6: What critiques do they have about the portrayal of women in the film?
This is not my favorite movie, and it is also not good. But yet again, Netflix is never beating those pay-for-play motherfucking allegations. Because all of this talk around this movie, you know, it was not just recommended to me the minute I opened that little Netflix app, but I was hearing everyone talking, ooh, Woman of the Hour, ooh, Anna Kendrick. And I said, I love Anna Kendrick.
If I'm going to do anything, I'm going to ride for who? Who? Oh, I thought you were going to kind of say it with your chest or something. No, I'm not going to. I'm not going to be a party to this. But yet again, I'm being told press play, press play. I do. And I have to apologize for making you press play as well. But there's no way. This was not my movie.
Girl, who told you to watch? I've never heard anyone talk about this movie in a positive way. So I was shocked that you'd heard some good gossip about it. Yes, that it was good.
Oh my God, all my like normie type friends or like maybe like, you know, first wave kind of feminism era friends were like, it's good. And I understand why that they said that. Yeah, now it all adds up. Respect though. I've been in LA too long.
I don't know. The issue that I had with this is that like from the very beginning, we're seeing these stories as like two kind of opposite track stories of like how the serial killer finds his like young, you know, women, single women victims and also like Anna Kendrick's like struggling acting career in the 1970s. And it's like, oh my gosh, like how are they going to intersect?
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Chapter 7: How does the film compare to other 1970s stories?
And the time they do on this fucking dating show, it's like this is not intersecting enough. Like they have maybe exchanged like four lines to one another directly. Yeah. And then what I also didn't like is that Anna Kendrick's character in this is like a kind of down on her luck, aspiring actress. But she's like, she's too smart to be an actress. And so everyone's like play dumb or whatever.
And then halfway through the taping of this TV show, she's like, okay, I'm going to put on my like lingua franca, like white women cosplay little thing and like kind of talk circles around these boys. And her goal is to seem like I'm not going to dumb myself down for like the patriarchy and all this. Right. But she just comes across as like really arrogant and like confusing.
And it's just so unclear what the end goal is. Like, why are you trying to like prove that you went to Columbia on television? Yeah. Yeah.
You're like, first of all, who cares? Not even noteworthy anymore. But I was going to say, I feel like the thing that first pissed me off with this movie was no one's hair was big enough. Don't you dare do a movie in the 70s and keep a flat head like that.
Yeah.
Pissing me off. Two. Yeah. We got to talk about the wig budgets. It was kind of giving actually Bella in the third movie from Twilight, the murderer's wig. Yeah. And that like hairline I was struggling with. It was like an early season housewife. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Heard that. I also feel like too many people have faces that look like they know what TikTok is.
Yes.
You know what I mean? When you're watching a movie set in a time and it's like, oh, I'm there and you guys, we're in a moment. All of these actors have done the savage dance on TikTok. That's how I felt. I couldn't trust any of them with my life. So those things already set me off in general. I found the directing to be uninteresting. Nothing felt novel. Nothing felt really even consistent, too.
Sorry, Anna. Let's keep you in front of the camera. And specifically, Anna, let's keep you in front of that mic. But yeah, I just was so... Oh, it was so dreadful. And I like really wanted to feel convinced of his charm, but I never of the murderous charm. Yeah. Like what?
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Chapter 8: What are the hosts' thoughts on Anna Kendrick's acting career?
You know, I thought that they were trying to do a thing like, oh, he's I guess the juxtaposition of him and and the other two men on the dating show felt a little bit hitting us over the head.
Because the other two men are kind of like chauvinistic, very kind of talking down to women, like, you know, kind of airhead. Listen, I love a dumb jock, but he's the only one who's like, oh, a woman belongs wherever she wants to live. Like, you know, not so like women get in the kitchen. Yeah. But that contrast, I think you're right.
It was just like not stark enough in a way that I was like, but wait, he's not charming. Yeah. And he's just kind of saying all the right things. But like, what does that do? I'm sorry. I'd rather him be hot and fucking stupid. Yeah. Right. I said, you should have gone with number one, number two.
You can get implants and work around with number two who likes his titties big. But I felt like the juxtaposition of that felt a little bit hitting us over the head. It felt a little bit too obvious in terms of the language, even though I get that we're in the 70s. So maybe for that time it worked. But then on top of it, I didn't find him not just charming, but I didn't find him attractive.
So I was like, where is the draw here that's like trying to position him as this person who's like... you know, trapping these women and convincing them to, you know, come get photographed by him up in a desert. White girls don't go to the desert. No, I'm not getting into a car with any man. White girls don't run at night.
There are simple things that you learn as a Black woman that you just don't do. But yeah, I just really felt like... I was unconvinced of him. I also, to kind of go back to what you were saying, I don't know if I want to call it tonal shift, but the shift in her character from being, yeah, she's down on her luck, but we want to fight for her. We want to believe her.
And when the switch happens where she's sitting in the chair, scared, nervous, playing this role of a docile woman who's flirting with these men. And this is when she's on camera taping the show? Yeah. And then when she switches it up, it didn't feel like...
oh I'm on her side and there are these fun stakes or like she had a convincing enough conversation with maybe the makeup artist or hair artist that makes her suddenly like tap into her feminism yeah it just felt like she got bored and then switched it up a little bit yeah yeah and I was kind of thinking like my sister you want to be an actress well then here's an acting here's some acting for you to do like she's this woman's been like oh I wish I could be an actor normal cast but I'm like here's a role of playing a woman who wants to fall in love on a dating show
Sorry.
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