This week, Hunter and Peyton talk about the new developments in the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni feud, question Shameik Moore’s weirdo social media habits, and welcome the iconic Matt Rogers to talk about his ins and outs for 2025 and his hit new Netflix show No Good Deed. And for Wondery+ subscribers, they get into everything Beyoncé and her Christmas Day Beyoncé Bowl performance. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What happened during the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni feud?
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, we are so back. We're so back. Hey! Back and better, do you think? No. Back and the same, probably. Actually, I am doing better. I'm doing better than I was before because over winter break, I developed two kinds of sicknesses. Let's start with the flu. The flu drop kicked my ass. The flu beat me to a pulp. She got her lick in. I'll say that.
It was horrendous. And it led me to something even more horrendous. Oh, God. Which is. Rony. A rony view. And I said, you know what? I'm laying down. It's time to lock in. You know, I got to respect my co-host. I got to respect our group chat. Rony updates.
You need to respect yourself. Oh, my God. Welcome.
I need to respect myself. Yeah. But then I was like, oh, Hunter, like, wakes up and goes to bed with these women. I'm so scared for your home. I'm so scared for your health. I'm so scared for the woman that you are. I was like, I like have to sage the room. I have to like listen to a meditation after I watch this show. It's crazy.
What are you talking about? Sage to do what? To recover from what? Turtle time? To find love in my heart. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Let me say this. Ramona Singer, there's no one on television like her.
Actually, in my year-end photo dump, year-end review, I shared this one clip of Ramona insisting on wearing her heels into Bethany's house and then accidentally kicking one of Bethany's dogs and then being like, I didn't kick him. I just tapped him with the side of my foot, not even my shoe. And there is a difference. It's like, that's the kind of stuff, like, you can't make that up.
Like, you can tell Ramona one thing and she'll tell you the exact opposite. Like... But that's my sister. And I stand by her. Her racist ass. I love her. Those are your mothers and I'm terrified. You haven't even seen it. You haven't even seen it. I know. I haven't. I've barely scratched season three. You haven't met Carol. You haven't met Dorinda.
Oh, but have you gotten to, you know, we need to, we need to save this for a second part because like. I know. I know. There's got to be, we got to do a deeper dive later on because like. Now that you're with the holy text, I can't wait. And what was the other sickness you were done with? Love sickness? The flu. Oh.
Oh. Oh, you want to talk about it?
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Chapter 2: What are the allegations against Justin Baldoni?
inappropriate and just unprofessional things on that set, including, she says, he showed her nude videos slash images of his wife when she was giving birth. He and his co-producer would discuss their previous porn addictions. They would ask her if she watched porn. They would ask her trainer how much she weighed.
Justin Baldoni would improvise kissing, like, without clearing it with an intimacy coordinator. He would enter her trailer while she was in the nude. And then a few that I just have to quote directly, these were requests that Blake Lively said that she made in an HR complaint to Justin Baldoni and to the producers.
Quote, no more private multi-hour meetings in Blake's trailer with Mr. Baldoni crying. No more pressing by Mr. Baldoni to sage any of Blake Lively's employees. No more mention by Mr. Baldoni of him, quote, speaking to Blake Lively's bedfather.
Pausing for a moment, does all this information shock you? And what was, like, your immediate response to seeing all these allegations?
I mean, my initial response was just, like, shock. No more saging of the employees. No more trying to speak to Blake Lively's dead father. This is, like, not only, like, grotesque, but also, like, weird. Like that's just so bizarre.
And also I can't imagine having to go to work every day when like you are trying to avoid all of these like really inappropriate questions about like your own sex life, your own relationship history, your own religious history. I cannot even imagine. Does not change the fact that she wasn't very good in the movie, but I'm just saying.
Yeah, that's a different conversation we can also have because the movie on its own feels like it's separate thing. But it does feel, of course, ironic that this is all coming out for a movie that is about domestic violence and a man that was promoting it with his full chest. Like, yes, this was his baby. Yeah. And this is now all happening.
Yes. And so the second part of the Blake Lively filing end of the New York Times story is that after the movie wrapped, Lively says that Baldoni and two main publicists, Melissa Nathan and Jen Abel, Melissa Nathan also, it should be said, was the publicist employed by Johnny Depp in his California case against Amber Heard. Was it California? Yeah.
I'm not sure. I would assume so. And Amber Heard, I believe, has also spoken out and sided with Blake Lively. A lot of people are weighing in.
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Chapter 3: How did the public respond to the Lively vs. Baldoni situation?
Find more stories about battered women watching this movie and loving it so much and crying over it so that I can post them on my social to make me seem like the white knight of this all, which is outrageous. Yeah.
Sequel predictions, I don't know what's going to happen because according to The Hollywood Reporter, Justin Baldoni's production company Wayfair has the rights to the sequel, It Starts With Us, which would mean that either they like recast Blake Lively or Baldoni or both, but in some way he'll still be attached no matter what.
Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping it just ends with that. It ends with us. And then we end it there because I have so many qualms with that movie. I can't even begin. That's again, go back to whatever episode we talked about it before. But yeah, truly, I'm hoping that the story ends here. But I do want to see how this all plays out, at least legally.
Yeah, totally. I don't I think this is just the beginning. I think we're in for a long, long, long fallout from this story.
So it's starting.
It's starting. It's starting with us.
In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
We're talking about the CEO of the biggest private health insurance corporation in the world. And the suspect.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Matt Rogers provide on his Netflix show?
You are a lover, because what did you do on the way here?
Okay, so this is what I did. So I had some time. I had about an hour before I got here. I watched the Hollywood Reporter Actress Roundtable, which just came out five hours ago. They have a great group this year. And can I say where the energy is in the Oscar race for Best Actress? This is where the energy is.
Oh, my God.
Demi. The energy is with Demi. Demi Moore.
She's mother. I love the way you say her name.
That is how you say it.
That's how I say it. Oh, okay.
You want to know why I learned that is because I interviewed her at Sundance one time and I said Demi Moore and the whole cast and Demi said, it's Demi. And I said, oh my God. Oh my God. But then I redeemed myself because I said, Demi, you are one of the most iconic criers in cinema history. And she actually cried right there for me to show me how iconic she was.
And then months later, her autobiography came out and this was a line in her autobiography. At Sundance, a young journalist once called me the most iconic crier in cinema history. Whoa. I am a young journalist.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the lawsuits?
Oh my God. That is me.
Me too. Desperately.
Are we all oatmeal raisin culture?
Absolutely. How did you get those cavities then? Sometimes and often over. Don't start. See, that was private. I didn't even want to talk about the cavity on the pod. Damn it. Okay.
We need to move on because we need to talk about No Good Deed. We do. We do. Desperately. How did you prepare to play a real estate agent in No Good Deed?
Okay so this is actually a funny story. I get the audition and it's that thing of like if you're an actor you know this. You get an audition and you see like the caliber of talent involved and you're like oh I'm gonna be so mad at the person that books this. This rocks. I'll never get it. But also in your mind it's like two things happen.
One I have no chance like that's the devil on your shoulder and then the angel on your shoulder is like this is what I win an Emmy for. I can already see me getting exalted on set. They're going to ask me to all do their next project. And I was like sort of in that mode with it because it was such a good role on this show that sounded really fun.
And then I had to do the audition on Zoom in my studio apartment in Long Island City. I have the worst lighting in American history.
Sure.
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Chapter 6: How does this affect the film 'It Ends With Us'?
Which is a really long time and I just kind of rushed it because it was humiliating. So I want you to know I moved in February 2020, March 2020. Let me tell you about the pandemic. It happened. It's hard. And then you're like ordering a lot of food. So everyone coming to the door just hears La Vie en Rose and it quickly became not charming.
And I am still in that apartment with the ghost of Edith Piaf and like two ex-boyfriends, a dog that died, a lot of takeout. Like I need to leave. So I can't judge anyone's apartment.
Okay.
And then my studio here, like I said, has such bad lighting, I had to go on Zoom in my bathroom and audition. So it's like, no, I'm not judging people based on anything they have.
Are you retiring by Coastal then?
we were just saying it's like I guess I'm you know what I'll say it right here oh my god imagine I say I'm moving to New York I like literally don't yeah I guess I'm still Bicostal I just want I want to level up in both cities but isn't that too much money I don't know you guys I'll figure it out one day Bicostal is too hard for me as a child of divorce I've already lived between two houses it triggers you yeah it does yeah it does as a former bisexual I actually think it's like totally fine and you can do it and there's an ego bit to it that's actually great so I'll just leave that
I'm like, I've now done like bi-coastal too much. Like I could move into being bi-coastal curious again, but I should pick for a while. I should just be a New Yorker, AKA a lesbian or LA, AKA a gay man, which is how I will binary it.
Okay, Matt, we are almost at one year of Tina Fey telling you in her iconic, I don't think so, honey, that you have one year left before you can legally stop giving your real opinions. So coming up on that time, one, how are you going to spend these last couple of months of freedom? And while it's still safe, is there anything you want to say?
I guess I have to talk some final words of shit, huh?
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Chapter 7: What are the latest updates on the case?
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There's always some like holiday break drama that happens just under the wire. And I'm like, wait, you guys couldn't like spread this out a little bit? Like I have to work. I like really don't want to be like so on my phone. Imagine. Okay, but did you see the Laura Harrier, Shamik Moore drama? It was like a half day on TikTok.
No idea how to pronounce either of their names, but absolutely.
Okay. So for context, Laura Harrier, spelled Harrier. I can see why it's not Harrier. Okay. Laura Harrier, model and actress. She was in Black Klansman and she was like the not MJ Zendaya girl in Spider-Man, the Tom Holland movies. Not too much, but yes. Yeah. What do you mean by not too much?
I think she's... She was not Zendaya, but the other girl. Anyway, so don't put light skins against each other. You know they're sensitive. That's your people. You put Megan Zendaya all the time.
And anyway... Anyway. After Shameek Moore posted a video of him and Laura Harrier at a party or something. And he posted it with no context.
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