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Are there 'forever chemicals' in your drinking water?

14 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are PFAS and why are they called 'forever chemicals'?

0.959 - 27.388 Mariel Segarra

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29.14 - 35.452 Mara Hoplamazian

Hey, it's Marielle. I want you to look around your home. Do you have a nonstick frying pan? A raincoat?

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Chapter 2: How do PFAS affect human health?

36.073 - 58.335 Mara Hoplamazian

Dental floss designed to slide easily between your teeth? All of these items have something in common. They often contain man-made chemicals called PFAS. That stands for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances. They're in a lot of stuff that we as humans really like, like nonstick pans that are really great for frying eggs or raincoats that keep you really dry.

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58.897 - 74.709 Mara Hoplamazian

But the same qualities that make them useful also make them really difficult to break down. So they can stick around for a long time in our bodies and the environment. New Hampshire public radio reporter Mara Hoplamazian has spent years reporting on PFAS, which are also known as forever chemicals.

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75.33 - 91.791 Mara Hoplamazian

One reason for that nickname is that they're super strong, in part because one of the things that unites this whole group of chemicals is that they have a bond between a fluorine atom and a carbon atom, which is the strongest single bond in organic chemistry. PFAS are everywhere.

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Chapter 3: Where can PFAS be found in our environment?

91.832 - 112.438 Mara Hoplamazian

They build up in our bodies. And even tiny amounts are linked to serious health problems like cancer, thyroid disease, high cholesterol, preeclampsia, ulcerative colitis, and more. And a major source of exposure for a lot of people is drinking water. Government estimates show that these chemicals are coming out of the taps in nearly half of homes in America.

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115.338 - 127.652 Mara Hoplamazian

Mara is the host of a podcast called Safe to Drink. It follows the story of one town that finds out its water has been contaminated. And on this episode of Life Kit, we're going to talk about how to live in a world where these toxins are everywhere.

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128.293 - 137.464 Mara Hoplamazian

We'll go over how to find out if PFAS are in your drinking water, what kinds of water filters can tackle them, and what other changes you can make to limit your exposure.

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Chapter 4: Are there regulations on PFAS in drinking water?

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168.452 - 185.732 Mara Hoplamazian

All right, Mara, thanks for being here. Thank you so much for having me. Let's lay out the basics. Do we know what these chemicals are actually doing inside of our bodies? How they cause all this harm? There's evidence that PFAS chemicals could be disrupting the signals our bodies send through hormones.

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Chapter 5: What steps can I take to test my drinking water for PFAS?

186.293 - 207.681 Mara Hoplamazian

They could change the way our genes express themselves. They could suppress our immune systems. They can interfere with cellular biology and cause uncontrolled growth, which is cancer. And the most well-studied of these chemicals are PFOA and PFOS. They're sometimes called legacy PFAS chemicals. They're sort of like the originals.

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208.302 - 229.484 Mara Hoplamazian

PFOA is classified as a group one carcinogen, meaning it is carcinogenic to humans. That's along with like other group one carcinogens, which are, you know, tobacco, asbestos, arsenic, but also things like processed meat and alcohol. And PFOS is classified as possibly carcinogenic. Where have scientists found PFAS?

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Chapter 6: How can I filter PFAS out of my drinking water?

230.165 - 252.019 Mara Hoplamazian

Estimates from the CDC show that pretty much all of us have PFAS in our blood. And they're pretty much everywhere in the world scientists have looked. You know, they were found in polar bears and seals in East Greenland. They were found in penguins in Antarctica. So it's really hard to get away from these things. And when it comes to tap water in the U.S., the U.S.

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252.039 - 273.51 Mara Hoplamazian

Geological Service tried to get a handle on this with a study that came out a few years ago. They tested for more than 30 different PFAS chemicals of the, you know, roughly 15,000 that exist. And they found at least 45 percent of the nation's tap water has one or more of 30 plus PFAS chemicals in it. Are PFAS legally allowed in drinking water?

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Chapter 7: What should I know about bottled water and PFAS?

273.676 - 294.677 Mara Hoplamazian

As of two years ago, 2024, there are federal regulations for how much of a few PFAS chemicals are allowed in drinking water. And that means public water systems all across the U.S. will need to start testing for PFAS chemicals and treating their water to remove them. But the deadline for water systems to do that work is unclear.

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295.438 - 301.063 Mara Hoplamazian

And we don't know yet which Forever Chemicals water systems will be required to test for and remove.

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301.623 - 321.081 Mara Hoplamazian

That's because the Trump administration is pushing for some changes to what the EPA had planned under Biden, essentially proposing to keep rules for just two of the legacy PFAS chemicals that aren't really being used anymore, PFOA and PFOS, and rescind the rules for a handful of other PFAS chemicals the EPA did regulate in 2021.

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321.061 - 344.929 Mara Hoplamazian

And in terms of the regulations themselves, the federal regulations for PFOA and PFOS are four parts per trillion. But the EPA has said if the levels were set solely based on health, they would be at zero parts per trillion. So essentially saying, you know, there's not a safe level of these chemicals to be drinking. So I wonder if you want to know, does the tap water in my area have PFAS in it?

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Chapter 8: How can I reduce my overall exposure to PFAS?

345.069 - 363.724 Mara Hoplamazian

What would be your first step? Many states have already done testing. So a good first step is to see what your current state regulations are and whether your state has public testing data online. And usually that can be found through your state's Department of Environmental Services or your health department.

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363.704 - 383.552 Mara Hoplamazian

If you're on public water and you can't find that information through your state, you could call your water utilities customer service line to see if they have tested the water. And if they haven't, you know, keep checking because the deadline for water utilities to test under the current EPA regulations is 2027. That's coming up. And so testing results should be coming in.

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383.532 - 401.874 Mara Hoplamazian

If you're on a private well, which, you know, like half of folks in my state are, many states have programs to help you figure out how to test your own water. I know in New Hampshire there's also some financial assistance for that. And there are a few maps online where you can sort of see testing that's already been done throughout the country. One of them is from the U.S.

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401.894 - 424.274 Mara Hoplamazian

Geological Survey and others from this advocacy organization called the Environmental Working Group. And you can just sort of put in your location and see what water around you has been tested. Takeaway one, you want to know if your tap water contains PFAS. A good starting point is your state's PFAS regulations and its public water testing data.

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424.695 - 443.037 Mara Hoplamazian

You can find that through your state health department or Department of Environmental Services. You can also call your water utilities customer service line to see if they've tested the water. And there are maps online that pull together public water testing data from the U.S. Geological Survey and from the Environmental Working Group. an advocacy organization.

443.738 - 459.152 Mara Hoplamazian

If you're on a private well, many states have programs to help you test your water and they might also offer financial assistance. And then once you do look that up, how do you make sense of the reports that you find?

459.335 - 479.29 Mara Hoplamazian

I think a good first step is to sort of compare your results to the federal regulations so that, you know, four parts per trillion for PFOA and PFOS and then any state regulations you might have. I looked into this in Concord, New Hampshire, where I live. My apartment is on public water. So I checked to see if my water utility had tested the water.

479.731 - 499.376 Mara Hoplamazian

And they did test in 2023 and they published those results online. One of the water sources that mixes into my water tested slightly above the federal level, but the other sources had levels lower than the federal limit, and everything was below New Hampshire's state limits. So I felt like that was enough for me to feel my water was pretty safe.

499.997 - 523.266 Mara Hoplamazian

But then again, like you said, the EPA has said that no level of PFAS is safe to be drinking. Yeah, and in part, the reason for the difference between that zero parts per trillion for the health guideline and the four parts per trillion for the enforceable guideline is because we can't really test down that low. I mean, these are tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny amounts of these chemicals.

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