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"Open water lifeguarding differs from pool lifeguarding"

27 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the main differences between open water and pool lifeguarding?

0.773 - 7.862 Sinead Jackson

Get in touch on WhatsApp 087 484 888.

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Or 51551, the number for your text as well. We were talking about water before the break and water, the topic of conversation now as well, because Sinead Jackson is on the line. Sinead, you've been involved with lifeguarding for a long time, have you?

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26.272 - 41.47 Sinead Jackson

I have, yeah, since I was 15 years old. But just first of all, just to say, like, I can't even say I'm so sorry to the people that you've had on their island and everything not having water. Because, like, as a climate educator as well, it's just so, like, even heartbreaking isn't even enough to cover it.

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Like, as in, we've warned the government for years about water, like, and the shortage of water as a result of

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48.58 - 69.88 Sinead Jackson

the climate emergency and no one is listening to us like as in it's and then we're having the impact directly felt right in front of us and it's so heartbreaking to see it like and now you know I grew up obviously as a lifeguard you know and saving people and you know like it's just seeing it unfold in front of me like it's just heartbreaking to hear it like

70.197 - 89.719 Sinead Jackson

So I'm really sorry to hear, and I hope that Ishgarland are listening. And I hope they do reach out and they actually do, you know, like, we can't trust any of these bodies anymore. Like, it's all promises. And a lot of the money is going into investors' hands rather than the people on the ground. And we're being affected directly as a result of the climate emergency now.

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Well, I don't think there's not... To be fair to Ishgair, I don't think the investor is making money from them. It's a public utility, effectively.

98.951 - 115.813 Sinead Jackson

I'm talking about the government. I'm talking about the government giving over money into multinationals' hands rather than into the people's hands. We warned them that this was going to happen. You can see with Shell and with the likes of these big tech companies that are going to be draining lots of our water.

115.793 - 128.433 Sinead Jackson

You know, like data centres are being built across the country and they're draining our water. Like I'm living in Limerick and basically there's going to be a pipeline going from Dublin to Limerick, you know, on the Shannon and a lot of our water is going to be seeped out of the Shannon.

Chapter 2: How does climate change impact water safety and lifeguarding?

213.589 - 238.208 Sinead Jackson

Is that right? Yeah, I lost my friend two years ago. I was doing an outdoor instructor course. Stephen O'Gallan, he basically lost his life in August 2024. He rescued a number of children and basically drowned himself. And he was the funniest person you could ever meet. He was very funny, but then also so kind and so intelligent, like highly intelligent.

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238.188 - 260.331 Sinead Jackson

You know, he was doing the outdoor instructor course. He knew exactly how to swim. And he was even being affected by the rip currents that was there, you know. And I think when it comes to like April, May, when there's no lifeguards on duty, this is what happens. Like, you know, you have people that don't have, you know, like if people get into shock. as a result of the water being so cold.

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260.691 - 276.408 Sinead Jackson

And because it's so warm out as a result of the climate emergency, people kind of underestimate then, you know, the level of impact that's going to have on someone's body temperature. Sorry, I'm getting kind of trained at the moment. No, you're all right. We can still hear you, Sinead.

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We can still hear you. Yeah, OK, OK. I mean... Do you think we do enough in terms of educating people about, you know, the consequence of going back swimming in water, you know, after the springtime?

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289.142 - 300.897 Sinead Jackson

Yeah, I'm getting into shock. No, I don't. Well, like, I believe Irish Water Safety are doing everything that they can in their own capacity. But, like, a lot of schools, like, say, within the urban context are not being educated enough.

300.917 - 309.608 Sinead Jackson

Like, you know, a lot of the teachers and they, you know, the parents need to be educating their kids as well and having the resources in order to do that, you know, across the board.

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Yeah.

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Do we invest enough? Do we have enough lifeguards around the country? The river down, you can swim near me and it's kind of like Magaluf down there at the moment with young lads and young ones eyeing each other up on the riverbank. But there's no sign of a lifeguard and there won't be until June.

328.808 - 348.165 Sinead Jackson

I don't believe we do, yeah. Sorry about the background noise. What's it called? Yeah, I don't believe we do. Unfortunately, a lot of our... Oh, sorry, I'm a bit flustered. I think that guy just started shouting at me. What's the quality?

Chapter 3: What tragic events highlight the need for lifeguards in open water?

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I should admit that I always jump off the wall in the Weir when I swim down there, Cormac. I mean, it's one of life's great pleasures. Not only that, I let my kids do it.

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851.807 - 870.868 Sinead Jackson

I'm not only a bad person, I'm a bad parent. I saw someone actually do it in Loch Derg, actually. He nearly buckled himself. His two cracks came off him and everything. Like, I've had a situation out in Loch Derg where someone jumped off on my friend, actually, and he nearly drowned. So, you know, I need to rescue him.

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Well, I would say this. I would say this. I mean, I do jump in, but I don't jump in head first. I know you see other people doing it and I kind of grimace, you know, despite the fact that there are deeper little points. Your feet hit the bottom and you're like, oh God.

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886.053 - 905.251 Sinead Jackson

Yeah, there's not enough education on the side of like, you know, as in, as I was about to say there a while ago, like you've been inclining up people, recreational swimmers, like say out in O'Connell, sorry, Castle O'Connell, out in Morrill's End, there's a huge amount of recreational swimmers out there, but there's no education. No one knows what to do out there. Gave them the clue.

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Yeah.

905.992 - 917.933 Sinead Jackson

Because there's nothing out there. There's no lifeguards and the whole place is ridden with people. It's a huge area, but there's never any lifeguards throughout the whole year. Not even during the summer. As far as I can see, like when I go out there, you know,

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Well, listen, if one of the consequences of climate change is we're going to get warmer weather earlier in the year, possibly more often, and we're going to have more people swimming, open water swimming in rivers and lakes and in the sea, there's a good argument to be made that, you know, lifeguards come on stream that little bit earlier everywhere. Cormac and Sinead, thanks a million.

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Cormac, if it was me you advised not to jump off the wall and I did it anyway, I apologise. I apologise profusely for my behaviour. 51551.

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