Cider at Haye | The Walkers Ep3

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What changes occurred at the heritage cider farm since the Walkers left?

Chloe Hadjimatheou 0:04
Can I have a little tour? You can. It's changed since the walkers have been here. But yeah, it's on the market. At the very heart of the salt path is this quirky whitewashed stone building surrounded by fields in rural Wales. It's there at the beginning of the story and its loss echoes throughout the book and its sequels. It was once the forever home of Moth and Rainer Wynne, real names Tim and Sally Walker. They lived there for 20 years and raised two children between these walls. Was this their living room?
Maxine Faramond 0:54
Yes.

How did Maxine Faramond come to live in the Walkers' former home?

Maxine Faramond 0:55
That's changed, you see. So that was built in. They had a built-in fire in there. It all bricked up or something like that. but they didn't realise there was a big leak coming in from the back, so it was all rusty and things like that. I mean, it was in a right old mess.
Chloe Hadjimatheou 1:10
Maxine Faramond lives here now, a cheerful woman in her 60s with long white hair. Maxine's a former police officer who bought the house after she retired in 2016. By that time, it had been sitting empty for almost four years after it was repossessed. Rainer Wynne talks about losing the house in the salt path and in almost every interview she's done, often using the exact same phrases, like she's reading from a script.

What emotional impact did losing the house have on Raynor Wynne?

Chloe Hadjimatheou 1:39
We were in the house at the last moment when the bailiffs were knocking on the door and we were hiding under the stairs actually. Not probably thinking that some miracle was going to happen and we wouldn't have to go because we just didn't feel ready to leave. I don't think we would ever have been ready to leave.
Chloe Hadjimatheou 2:10
I love how bright it is. Sitting in the bath looking out at the trees. Maxine offers me tea and a grand tour. The place is rickety with low ceilings and sloping stone walls. The original bit of the house where the kitchen is dates back to the 1600s. When they left, the walkers took almost everything with them. The farmer who lives next door told me they left in the middle of the night.

What were the initial impressions of Rainer and Moth by their new neighbors?

Chloe Hadjimatheou 2:35
He saw vans driving off, carrying them and all their stuff. So, no hiding under the stairs. They were long gone when the bailiffs came knocking. They didn't leave much behind except all the fittings and interior decoration they'd furnished the place with. Maxine could tell this was a couple with style. And that wood panelling on the walls? Yeah, the wood panelling was done. These are slate tiles. It was all very expensive. When Maxine took the place over, she knew very little about its previous owners, except that they'd been responsible for converting an old barn into a granny flat and that the man had a profession.

How did Bill Cole's relationship with Rainer and Moth evolve over time?

Maxine Faramond 3:15
I found a little placard, but it said Master Plaster on it. Other things are a little bit wonky, you know, like they're woodworking and things are not great, but the plastering, you can tell somebody knows what they're doing.
Raynor Wynne 3:27
When I was decorating, I was up in the corner there and I saw, you know, what I thought was rough plaster, and then I realised it was a signature.
Chloe Hadjimatheou 3:35
Will you show me?
Raynor Wynne 3:36
It's in the corner, yeah.
Chloe Hadjimatheou 3:38
Probably need a chair to stand on. It's just in the corner there. Oh, yeah. It's quite hard to see. Hang on.

What conflicts arose regarding cider-making at Hay Farm?

Chloe Hadjimatheou 3:48
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can see it. It says, Tim Hart Sal, kiss, kiss, kiss. And there's a date.
Yeah.
Chloe Hadjimatheou 3:57
Soon after Maxine moved in, she began hearing rumours about the previous owners around town. The rumours were that the woman had stolen a lot of money from her employer and had somehow got away with it. I introduced myself to local people and they said, oh, you know, well, Tim and Sally used to have that property. And then someone said, oh, do you know she's written a book?

How did Moth's health condition affect his interactions with others?

Chloe Hadjimatheou 4:17
But even after she'd finished reading The Salt Path, Maxine found this mysterious couple intruding on her peace. I was receiving letters from the time that I took the property on. So you moved in here years after the Walkers had left. But you were still getting letters for them?
Maxine Faramond 4:36
Yeah, yeah, from day one, you know, lots and lots and lots of them. And I kept just putting return to sender on the backs of all these letters. And in the end, I started to open them up. And then I found they were bailiff's letters and solicitor's letters.

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