We Chose to be Rich in Children
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What early childhood lesson shaped Leslie’s view of wealth?
So, you've climbed the career ladder, reached the executive suite, and achieved the financial stability you always thought you wanted. But at some point or another you've probably heard yourself asking. Is this all there is? Am I working to live or am I just living to work? Maybe you've thought about making a career pivot or starting your own business to regain control of your time. But then the stakes kick in. Stepping away from a secure paycheck to dive into the unknown is terrifying. You worry about risk and whether you can actually afford to prioritize your freedom over your career. This was exactly the scenario I faced, as well as our guest today, Leslie Hocker. Leslie became one of the youngest female executives in the petroleum industry.
Yet despite her corporate success, she realized she was coming home in the dark, working weekends, and missing out on life. To change her path, she took a calculated leap. And pioneered Houston's very first Pilates studio in the mid nineteen eighties. Today Leslie, alongside her husband, was Хелпс перпис дривен інтерпреної з бил легасі бізнесів, я чули проудов. Leslie joins us to share how she reframed her financial mindset to unlock a life focused on memories over material wealth. If you are navigating a major life transition or simply trying to figure out how to fund your next chapter with integrity and peace of mind. This conversation is for you.
Welcome to Making Change with Your Money, a podcast that highlights the stories and strategies of women who experienced a big life transition and overcame challenges as they redefined financial success for themselves. Now here's your host, certified financial planner, Laura Roder. So welcome Leslie to the Making Change with Your Money podcast.
Thank you so much, Laura. I'm excited to be here.
So let's see where the conversation takes us. I'm going to start as I always do with the question, Leslie. What was money like in your family growing up?
That's interesting and uh Ma I so I am the oldest of five children.
Mm.
Um there was always someone to get in trouble with. We were all about two years apart. The the li last was three. Май фатр воз петролім інженір, совей суціфо. However, with five children That's a lot of expense and Uh so we lived uh the area that we lived in. Had Uh I mean uh I loved I had an amazing childhood, but we used to by my Ma one of the things that my parents said to us. When we would ask for things. Is we chose to be rich in children. Oh, I love that. And my mother, when we would be driving through the neighborhood and there's there were Uh I mean I I I grew up in in a very nice house, two story house, five children. You gotta have a big house. We we moved to that house I think when I was five.
Um five or six. And uh sh we would drive through the neighborhood and she would point out this mansion and share with us the sad story and So I was raised with money doesn't buy happiness. And we chose to be rich in children. So when we would ask for things it was we chose to be rich in children. And you know, when I'm talking With people on uh mindset and personal growth and how you talk to yourself. And when you when you say You know, I don't have the money to do that. I I always coach people L let's let's change the way you're talking to yourself and say, I choose to spend my money on other things. And it's interesting. I hadn't thought about that, but I I love that my parents' focus was we chose to be rich in children.
So That that was the money mindset and We You know, I always felt like I had enough, but if I wanted If I wanted something extra? Uh I I started working when I was fourteen. As a life as a uh at the swimming pool. I was a lifeguard and a swimmer. Well, I was already at ready a swimmer and at fourteen. So I started working In the summers. And that was because my parents said if you want this, you want that, you need to earn it. And um Laura, the the My husband always laughs because My my badge is I have a lot of nice clothes.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What early childhood lesson shaped Leslie’s view of wealth?
0:00–5:53
2
How did Leslie’s family’s “rich in children” mindset influence her money language?
5:53–10:58
3
What prompted Leslie to leave a senior petroleum executive role?
10:58–15:33
4
How did she create Houston’s first Pilates studio while still employed full‑time?
15:33–20:29
5
What key skills from the oil industry transferred to her entrepreneurship journey?
20:29–25:15
6
How does Leslie help clients reframe “I can’t afford it” into a choice mindset?
25:15–30:11
7
What does she define as true financial success and how has that definition evolved?
30:11–35:09
8
What actionable tips does Leslie share for building wealth, health, and joyful memories?
35:09–40:55