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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#459 — More From Sam: Corruption, Immigration, The End of White-Collar Work, and More

13 Feb 2026

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6.663 - 23.41 Sam Harris

Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this, you're not currently on our subscriber feed, and we'll only be hearing the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense Podcast, you'll need to subscribe at samharris.org.

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24.111 - 32.485 Sam Harris

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36.076 - 46.068 Jaron Lanier

Welcome back to another episode of More From Sam. Hey, Sam, it was nice seeing you a few minutes ago and seeing you again here. A long time no see. Yeah, we just did a Substack Live. I thought that was really good.

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46.329 - 64.311 Sam Harris

Yeah, yeah. It actually kind of surprised me that live still feels like something different, right? I mean, obviously the experience of looking at a camera and talking is identical, but just the knowledge that it's live and that you can't take any of your words back is somehow thrilling or gets your attention. So I like it.

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64.291 - 84.645 Jaron Lanier

We didn't give subscribers much heads up at all. We will do that in the future, but we just had thought of it at the last minute. Anyone who would like to join us for one of those in the future, you can become a subscriber and join us over there. We will give you more time. I thought it was really cool that we were able to take some questions. from the audience and do that in real time.

85.026 - 92.546 Jaron Lanier

It's a different experience being live than recording, but we'll do more of those and we'll see where we can learn and figure out how to improve those.

92.907 - 109.967 Sam Harris

Yeah, it was fun. I think we can record them. I don't know, in this case, I think it was just, if you were in the room, you were in the room, you know, which is frankly kind of nice, you know, to treat it like a live event as opposed to yet another podcast, you know, piece of content that we're just going to record and put out there.

110.027 - 114.818 Sam Harris

So, you know, I think we should give people a heads up so that they can be there if they want to be.

115.034 - 129.877 Jaron Lanier

All right, so I woke up this morning thinking about your conversation with Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller from the bulwark, that media empire they have, and just thinking why it was so well-received by your audience. And I don't even know what their positions are on most issues, but I'm sure they're more conservative than yours.

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