Improving the Visitor Experience with Data, with Ryan Auster
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What exactly are visitor studies and why do they matter for museums?
Hello and welcome to Making the Museum. I'm Jonathan Alger, and this is a project of C and G Partners, the Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Today I am joined by Ryan Oster. Ryan, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me, Jonathan. To get started, for those who don't already know your name and your fame like I do, could you tell our dear listener who you are and what you do?
So I work at the Museum of Science here in Boston, where I serve as the manager of learning metrics and also as the project director of COVID, the collaboration for ongoing visitor experience studies.
And uh here's my traditional side question. I love asking this question because the the answer is always so different and surprising. Uh superhero origin story. What strange coincidence caused you to zig when others zagged and and you came into this line of work?
I I love that question because it assumes that I'm a superhero, but I'll I'll take the compliment and I'll just go with my origin story. A long time ago, I was a teacher fresh out of college in the Chicago public school system. And during my first year of teaching, I got an internship at the Art Institute of Chicago. Museums were never really on my radar, but I was working in the Educator Resource Center, which I felt like was a great vibe for me coming off of my first school year. And I got to work with teachers, but in the informal learning space, right? In the in the museum space. And it was really eye-opening for me. But I particularly liked walking through the art institute when it was closed, when it wasn't open to the public visitors.
And that kind of started it Created an itch that, like, wow, this is a cool space. This is a an industry that I hadn't really paid attention to before. So that opened my eyes to museums. And then if you fast forward 15 years from that, I will go ahead and blame my good friend Mac Kennedy. If you're listening, you know who you are, who actually recommended me for a research associate position at the Museum of Science when I was in grad school here. In between those two things, my life took many twisting roads, but I'm glad that I was open to the idea of continuing education and particularly in museum spaces.
Super interesting. So many, so many people, every everyone I asked this question of on the show really has a completely different answer. It's it's like there's it's like there's no one path or something. But the one thing you said is in common with a certain subgroup of guests, which is that you had a transformative experience where the gateway drug into museums was a museum. There's a there's a tribe you didn't know you were part of.
Venn diagram tribe that you are not you're not alone in that regard. in the group in the cohort of people who have been guests on the show.
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, let's get right into this. We've got some great stuff to talk about. You do a very interesting thing. That's why I wanted to get you uh on the show and you have a lot to say about it. So uh and I think a lot of people in the audience are gonna be very interested to hear some of the details of what you're up to because it's it's it's a little bit out of the ordinary and very cool. So we'll get right into this. Today's episode is called Improving the Visitor Experience with Data with Ryan. As always, I have the list, but only the list, and my guest has the rest. Today we have six points on your list of talking points. That's a very MTM number, not the only number, but a very MTM number. And we'll get right into it.
So, first of all, when we're talking about improving the visitor experience with data, we need to talk about visitor studies. That's the thing that you do. do to to do that, but that's not a very good definition. You can give us a better one. So point number one, what is visitor studies? A lot of people listening may think they know, and a lot of them may be right, but a lot of people don't actually know what that is and it's a whole thing. So lay that out for us.
Yeah. I like to think about visitor studies as the collective body of work that allows us to focus on understanding how what we do
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What exactly are visitor studies and why do they matter for museums?
0:00–8:03
2
What is COVES (Collaboration for Ongoing Visitor Experience Studies) and how does it work?
8:03–15:01
3
How is a Net Promoter Score (NPS) calculated and what does it tell museums?
15:01–22:00
4
Why do museums need an Overall Experience Rating (OER) in addition to NPS?
22:00–29:13
5
How can museums avoid being “drowning in data” and turn data into actionable wisdom?
29:13–35:40
6
What does “the voice of the visitor” mean and how is it captured?
35:40–42:28
7
What is capacity‑building in the museum data field and how does COVES support it?
42:28–49:52
8
How can listeners join the COVES movement and start using its tools?
49:52–59:24