A Big-Dog Podcast Fight & Mia Can’t Stop Crying
episodePreviously titled “The Karl Stefanovic Podcast Gossip & An Unpopular Opinion About The Hyrox Pooper” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 17, 2026
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Hello and welcome to Mama Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Wednesday the 16th of September and it's the OGs around the table today. I'm Holly Wainwright. I'm Mia Friedman.
And I'm Jessie Stephens and I think we should let the Out Louders know we're in a behind the scenes conversation we had where we're in a very important meeting and I turned to Mia and I said, Mia... It's spring. We're coming into summer. I think I want to wear a bandana and I need
you to
help me style
it. I nearly fell off my chair.
Holly did not stop laughing, which was not encouraging of my future endeavours. I have encouraged all of your projects, Holly. Every book I'm like, go you. I want to wear a bandana and apparently I'm a laughingstock.
It was the best day of my life and the closest I've ever felt to you.
It's so surprising to me. So have we had this masterclass yet or is that coming today?
I
have
one on my desk and I'm going to get Mia.
I brought in Holly. Eleven.
Okay.
I brought them in in every colour and I was going to teach you. I
have a vision and I want you to help me
realise.
Is it a pirate kind
of
vision? No, no, no. It's like I'm in the country, like I'm Sex and the City and I go to visit Aidan in his wooden cabin.
Oh, like tied up like Rosie the
Riveter?
No, no. It's
kind of like a
headband. Like a headband.
Like a kind of bonnet. Like a bonnet. I think like a bonnet. Okay.
I know this is a visual medium for many people who are consuming us today. We need to get the bandanas out. Yes. We'll
do a tutorial
on Instagram.
Yeah, on Instagram we'll do it. Coming soon to a social platform near
you. In the meantime,
what has made our agenda for today? Friends, good news. For those who are aware that Carl Stefanovic's been trying to cut our grass by launching a podcast, it's imploded. And he has taken his business partner to court and we finally find out what happened. I've got lots of tea on that one.
Maybe we're the Stephen Bradbury of podcasts. We just keep going when everyone else falls. Takes holidays, get locked out of
their Spotify account. We are always
here. We are always
here. Say
what you like about us. We are here with an episode.
It's harder than it looks, guys. As the big guys are showing us now, this is harder than it looks. Anyway, why telling Jessie to pretend she's drunk led to a big parenting aha moment and whether it's good advice for any other corners of our life.
And the High Rocks athlete who soiled herself has captured international attention. Was her continuing to compete selfish or a show of just incredible commitment?
I can't wait to talk about that. But first, I have to ask Mia Friedman something about Tom Cruise. Are you here for that? Oh, yeah. Gen X icon
that
is the Cruise. Mm-hmm. So he's everywhere that you look at the minute because he's about to be in a big movie called Digger. And it actually looks really interesting. It's not his usual kind of superhero movie. It's really weird and quirky. But anyway, so suddenly he's on my phone. His trailers are everywhere. He's done a magazine shoot. He hasn't done one of those for ages, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But most noticeably, he was sitting next to Taylor Swift at the football yesterday. Now, male sport, blah, blah, blah. Travis Kelsey, I believe, has gone back to work. He did some amazing running on the field yesterday. Taylor Swift was in the box. She was very excited. Tom Cruise is next to her. He was at her wedding.
Mia, why, why is Taylor Swift suddenly besties with Tom Cruise?
What I thought was so interesting about that wedding and who got to go is what we learned about Taylor's life away from the public. And I'm always... Impressed is the wrong word. But I think it's a good sign when celebrities have friends that we don't know about.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–9:54
2
Why are Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise suddenly best friends at a football game?
9:54–26:36
3
Did the High Rocks athlete really poop herself to win $21,000?
26:36–33:19
4
How did the ‘pretend you’re drunk on the stairs’ tip change Jessie’s parenting?
33:19–46:00
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