Ep 601 - Gen Z White Boy (feat. Devan Costa & Conner McNutt)

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What secret topics are discussed at the beginning of the episode?

Shane Gillis 0:00
Hey, we're here.
Matt McCusker 0:02
What the hell is going on? Connor McNutt, Devin Costa. We just had some secret talk that we, you know. Some secret talk.
Shane Gillis 0:11
Top secret talk.
Matt McCusker 0:11
Well, it's gonna look bad now because then the thing we're talking about, okay, we didn't have that kind of secret talk because we're about to talk about the BAFTAs. Right. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't, look, I can assure you it was not that, that was not that secret talk, but. No.
No.

What are the hosts' thoughts on the BAFTAs and the Tourette's guy?

Matt McCusker 0:22
The guy with Tourette's, yeah. I mean, I came in weird because we technically did have personal talk.
Shane Gillis 0:30
We also started three times in a row right now, which makes things awkward.
Matt McCusker 0:36
100%. Everything's on the up and up. You're going to be assured of that. You're going to be assured of that. Guys, thanks for coming. Of course, we know we're a pretty big get.
Shane Gillis 0:46
Anything to help. You're lucky we're here.
Matt McCusker 0:48
I'll take it. I am genuinely lucky you're here. Thank you. I'm fucking proud you guys are here. Yeah, man. God dang. So with all the formalities out of the way, we're talking Baptist.
Devan Costa 1:00
We're talking Baptist. It was a crazy situation because I thought Sinners was overrated, but I think that guy went too far. And then I had to check out the Tourette's guy's movie. Have you seen it? 12 Years a Slave?
Matt McCusker 1:13
No.
Devan Costa 1:14
That's the Tourette's movie. It's a crazy fucking movie. It's called I Swear.
Matt McCusker 1:19
What is it? I Swear. I Swear. Was he the director, writer?
Devan Costa 1:22
No, no. It's based on him. And an actor, a really good actor, plays him in it. And it's very good. I watched it right after the N-word dropped.
Matt McCusker 1:30
Oh, he was the guy. That's a crazy marketing campaign.
Devan Costa 1:34
I felt like it was intentional. Yeah, because I immediately watched the movie.
Shane Gillis 1:38
Also, they apparently missed the Oscar cut-offs by a week or two. So this movie's going to be in circulation for the next year. Yeah. It'll probably get nominated next year for the Oscars. So we'll hear about the Tourette's guy for the next year. Unless he gets killed by a black woman.
Matt McCusker 1:53
Why was he at the BAFTAs, though?
Devan Costa 1:54
Tourette's guy... He's a British guy.

How do the guests feel about the portrayal of race in film and media?

Devan Costa 1:56
He's actually kind of famous in England. Okay. John Davidson.
Matt McCusker 1:59
He's a white boy.
Devan Costa 2:00
He's a white boy, yeah. He's a crazy white boy. He's a very crazy white boy. He's never said it to Idris Elba, which is interesting.
Matt McCusker 2:07
I don't know, dude. Michael B. Jordan is jacked.
Devan Costa 2:11
Yeah.
Matt McCusker 2:11
You should say it to anybody, whether they're weak or strong.
Devan Costa 2:14
You said it to Delroy Lindo, too, who is like an older black dude and probably really heard it directed at him at times.
Matt McCusker 2:21
Okay, so this has been kind of the... Well, first of all, I'm curious. Was his movie being nominated or he was just an actor? Yes. Yeah, the actor that played him won.
Shane Gillis 2:29
The guy who plays him won.
Matt McCusker 2:31
But was he played by a black man? No, no, no. What are you talking about? Is Baptist for black?
Conner McNutt 2:38
No, it's British.
Devan Costa 2:41
No, no, it wasn't the fucking NAACP awards.
Matt McCusker 2:44
You think this is a segregated award show for black people? There's the BET awards. Right, no, Baptist is not that. I thought it was like the BET, British BET. No, no.
Shane Gillis 2:53
You thought it was like Badass Film Awards.
Matt McCusker 2:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was Black Actors Film.
Devan Costa 2:58
That's very funny.
Matt McCusker 2:59
The whole time, I was like, dude, he did it at the British. I thought he did it at the British BET Awards. No, he did it at the British. So this is just like the British Actors. Yes.
Shane Gillis 3:08
It's a guy who's, like, actually, like, he's, like, a crown jewel of London. Like, everyone loves this guy. There's, like, a documentary series about the guy.
Devan Costa 3:14
Yeah, yeah.
Shane Gillis 3:14
And then they made a movie out of it. So, like, he's, like, I mean, he called, like, the queen a cunt to her face.
Devan Costa 3:19
Yeah. Did he really? One of his best friends died. And when the cops came, he goes, like, I killed him. I killed him.
Matt McCusker 3:25
You say the thing that's never happened. Thanks for clearing up the fact this wasn't the British beat. I the whole time was going, whoa. The British beat. I love that you thought that. That's great.
Shane Gillis 3:34
That's beautiful, actually. You got a beautiful mind, dude. That's great. You're like, how cool is London? They have a black award show.

What insights are shared about the impact of social media on Gen Z?

Shane Gillis 3:44
Good for them, dude. I just thought it was. That's so funny.
Matt McCusker 3:48
That's embarrassing. So, okay.

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