Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 619 - Plus-Sized Problems (feat. Nate Marshall & Lemaire Lee)
11 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What are the unique challenges of plus-sized communities?
The Wild Wild West.
Can we get some more ARV? You want some AC? I want to see you sweat. I want to see you sweat. I want to see you sweat. Oh, just kicked on. Just kicked on. Hell yeah. Just kicked on.
It kicks on every... I'm guessing if I had to guess, I'm guessing the temperature set at 75. No. I've had to guess.
I keep it a little... At 74, I think. I keep it a little high. Very good guess. I keep it a little warm for the plants. I have plants. I don't want them getting chilly and frio in here. Frio. Dude, I just saw a thing. I don't know. I don't think it'll break into mainstream news, but apparently this guy... was he had like a plus size appreciator community and he called it paradise, like pear.
It's like pear shaped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Paradise. Love it. But apparently all wasn't well in paradise. Apparently he was getting a little handsy. So he had set up this like community where plus-sized women could just be comfortable in chilling poles and their bikinis, and I think he was getting a little handsy. I feel like there's been trouble in paradise.
I feel like that's what they signed up for paradise for.
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Chapter 2: How did the concept of 'Paradise' for plus-sized individuals evolve?
Well, it was his paradise. Oh, just him and babes? I don't know. I saw a second, and I just thought it was so funny that he had started paradise. And then the other starter of paradise, allegedly, it's coming out that he might have been
engaging in some unsavory practices oh he definitely might get my gut you come up with paradise you know with paradise my paradise yeah i mean he was king of the fats yeah he was king of the fats you set it up where he was like yeah i think it's important we all my paradise would be spelled with pog first Pogadice? Pogadice. But imagine if you were the god of Pogadice.
How long could you keep that chill of like, I just think it's really great that you guys all came out here and you're feeling, then you get in the pool. The pool is my drool. Damn, just you doing chicken fights against pogs. Although you'd have to build the quads up, dude. You can't let a pog feel you go... They would never, dude. You can't struggle.
Dude, have you ever had a chick be like, pick me up, and you pick them up and you go... Never once. You can't grunt. You can't. You got to throw all your bodybuilding training out the window and just be like, you got to act like you're just like lifting air. You got to hit a full ground squat. You got to go.
When a lady asked me to pick him up, I go, no. It's like Planet Fitness. You need the lunk alarm when you pick up a big lady. You can't lunk.
You cannot lunk, dude. Well, the problem is babes watch all these viral challenges. We're like, look, he picked up his whole family with one arm. And it's like, dude, get the fuck out of here with that.
I was going to bring up that. You saw that new challenge.
I've seen all of them, dude.
I've seen a guy just carrying a lady like up steep stairs.
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Chapter 3: What allegations have surfaced regarding the Paradise community?
It's not on Google review. Damn.
They have the allegations page here.
What's he claiming?
How many allegations? This page exists to collect a relevant timeline, public context, selected materials, and documented records relating to the allegations made about the founder, Stefan Wilhelmi. First name's Stefan. It's a creepy name.
Stefan's not a creepy name. Stefan Urkel. Dude, that was the best. That was cool Urkel.
That's a creep article.
That's a cool article.
It's not to attack, inflame, attack, or make conclusions for the reader. It's intended to present a documented account, organized chronology, so that interested readers can review the available materials and form their own understanding.
Okay, so what the fuck? Does this guy have fucking receipts or not, dude?
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Chapter 4: How do societal expectations affect body image and self-esteem?
If you were to run hard and like give it your all, you might burn 500 calories. Yeah. That's insane. You need to burn 3,500 more calories. You'd have to do, what is that? Six all-out running sessions to try to fight down one pound while not taking in enough food to offset that. Such fucking bullshit, dude. Yeah, that stinks. Such fucking bullshit. What are you laughing at?
Do you think paradise is funny?
No, no, no. I just wanted to clarify that the allegations were made by a TikToker named Piggy Stardust, which is a funny name. Oh, no. Iggy Stardust TikTok. I'm sorry, guys. Fired up. Stefan is suing Piggy for libel, slander, and defamation. So I wanted to clarify that everything we've said on this broadcast is alleged.
Alleged for sure. And opinion. Opinion of Piggy Stardust. Right. What we got with Piggy?
Well, she's 29, non-binary, ASD, parent of a peace sign, BLM, Trans Lives Matter, LGBTQ+.
Okay, I can see this lady.
She's on Ozempic now. She's not as fat.
What? Yo, that's fucking pissing me off, dude. That's body positive. That's why.
She's about to be kicked out the club and turned off.
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Chapter 5: What humorous anecdotes are shared about fitness and body positivity?
It wasn't like a little... The bigger it is, the least we get along, dude. It was like full hoop ring. It was hoop earring.
I don't know what it is, dude. Our... I'm just not aligned. Every time, and I have nothing against them, it's just every time I like... I even like the way it looks sometimes, but it's always attached to a dick.
That's because you know it's an op. I know it lays underneath, exactly. It looks like the enemy flag. They have the opposite values to me, like almost completely. Atheist, don't care about family.
True that. I like a little nose ring here. Ally. As soon as I see the septum, I'm like, we're going to have a problem. You and I are going to fight. We are going to battle. Yeah. Literally, we are. We're unaligned on every single thing you could possibly imagine.
I saw some... You guys hear about what's happening with CBS? No. They fired Chris. He was the anchor for...
they're like new show i don't know i think it was actually 60 minutes it was the anchor for 60 minutes they fired him chris who the fuck is chris crawley or something i can't remember what's her name lindy barry weiss barry weiss i remember that lady she she runs cbs now what yeah and she fired she's fired she's trying to make cbs sellable and they hired her because i'm gonna sell it to fucking like buzzfeed paramount oh yeah that's there's a company called scott that's why colbert got fired
Yeah, because he called them out for bribing Trump so that Skydance can buy Paramount. Wait, who bribed Trump? Skydance, the company. So they can buy Paramount because Trump's in charge of the FCC. And they want to try to keep it away from being a monopoly. Oh, okay. And they fired Colbert because he was yapping. And they kept saying he didn't make any money, which doesn't make any sense.
They sold his spot to Byron Allen. So, like, now the 11 o'clock spot is a paid spot for Byron Allen. He's paying to be on TV.
Who is Byron Allen? I saw that guy took over Colbert's spot.
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Chapter 6: How do dreams and subconscious thoughts relate to personal insecurities?
I want to see him talk weather on there.
I'm going to stay up until 11 p.m. to hear that guy talk about weather. Brian Allen doing Al Roker. I mean, I believe it that a lot of people weren't watching Stephen Colbert.
I think a lot of people are watching. Really? I don't think so. And then even if they're watching it, they're making money off the YouTube, off the Twitter.
That's right. YouTube's always heavy. Because that's what I'm saying. Those late night shows, I don't think that many people tune in, but then the clips online do well. Yeah. But even still, though, I don't think it, like... How much do they have? They definitely probably have the... Yeah, what were the... I don't think they were great.
I mean, I'm sure people watch, but like... But like, what's great on TV right now? Nothing.
Everything's streaming. If you were to challenge me to try to find and watch Stephen Cole or any show like that at nighttime, it would take me an hour to research and figure out how to even see it. Like, actually on TV. All you gotta do is go like this. Yeah, but how do you get the channel? I don't have a computer.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of life insurance on lifestyle choices?
I don't have fucking cable.
You're right, dude.
So it's like, I couldn't even tell you how to watch that. I was trying to get the Spurs game when we were doing stand-up this weekend. That took me.
That was tough. Disney, apparently.
Since I have Disney, I was able to. But then they put on YouTube TV and it worked. Yeah, Disney pretty much does. Let me see. What was Colbert's ratings? I'm nothing against the guy. I don't think anyone watches except for geezers.
His finale recorded a series high of 6.74 million. Oh, shut the fuck up. Live plus same day viewers. What's the average though? The average, let me look that up.
If it's less than two million, go ahead, cancel it. But if it's more than that. You think less than two is still cancelable? Yeah. Like what if it's like 1.5?
I don't know, it's pretty good.
Yeah, actually, if it's less than one, it's canceled.
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Chapter 8: How does humor play a role in discussing serious topics like body image?
Every day is crazy. Yeah, because Colbert's on every day. Yeah, you're right. That's pretty nuts. I had no idea that viewership was still rocking that hard. Yeah, and then he got fucking, yeah, everyone lied about his job.
And he probably still had YouTube money, because I think they do show clips on YouTube, so there's YouTube money coming in.
Big time. I thought for sure it was in, like, honestly, like, tens of thousands.
No, dude. That shit's good background noise shit. Like, I used to walk dogs. I would put on, like, I would put on whatever that kind of shit. That's crazy. Just for nothing or Rogan. That's good to sleep to.
For sure. Now, dude, I listen to like AI slop when I go to sleep. I got tricked. I didn't know. I'd watch these videos on YouTube. It's like fall asleep to all of St. Augustine's writings ever. And I just put it on. I pass out. And then I looked it up. I'm like, this is all fucking AI. It's just an AI summary. Some guy gave an AI voice. I was like, God damn it. I'm getting tricked by AI slop.
If you invest your time in making AI slop, there's bags to be made. It just doesn't feel good.
Yeah, it doesn't. Videos get hundreds of thousands of views. I looked it up in the very end of the thing and it was generated by AI, blah, blah, blah. I could do it right now. I could be like, hey, write up a summary of any historical figure And then you feed it to another one. Like, hey, get a nice voice acting or voice. And then it's like, bam, you have a fucking YouTube vid.
Then just get it to clip whatever visuals you want to be in there. That's all it was, yeah. Yeah, you make one where you make the thing. And then you go to one where you're like, review this. And then you go to one where you're like, let's do the audio.
Yeah. No, I got it. Because I was listening. I'm like, man, this guy knows his stuff. Then I read the description. I was like, mother freaker. There is something about it that I really... I don't know. When I hear it, I'm like, it makes me not want to listen to him. Not even on like a, you know, like moral thing of like, this is wrong. I just go like something about it.
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