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14 and Addicted to Crime: Insane Stories of a Career Criminal

Thu, 26 Dec 2024

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Chapter 1: What led Patrick McKean to a life of crime?

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You know, by the time I was six, my father went to prison for kidnapping and sexual assault on a prostitute. My mom met him when he was out on bail for capital murder in 1980. She went to the cops and said, I robbed her. I told the cops, yeah, I took the money out of her pocket, but that's because she owed me $200 and wasn't trying to give it to me. Turns out that's confession for robbery.

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They let probably me and 20 of my friends out of prison. that summer and by the end of that summer, every single onus was back in jail with a new charge or wanted by someone. I'm leaving the bank with the money and I'm walking down the sidewalk past the other stores and I get in the getaway car and now we drive away. We got to get to 93 South. We got to get going South and going to Massachusetts.

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They can't cross state lines. I know this because I had just watched the movie Public Enemies, which became my favorite movie of all time with Johnny Depp, where they couldn't cross state lines back then. About this big, right? And I tucked it in between my butt cheeks. He's soaking wet, and he just has this look of devastation on his face. And I go, hey, pick.

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And he goes, looking at me, he's like, I go, hey, man, I don't know about you, but I had fun today.

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88.814 - 112.376 Matt Cox

Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm going to be talking to Patrick McKean. He actually just got out of prison a couple of years ago. He's a career criminal, been in and out of prison, did most of his time in federal and state penitentiaries. And so it's going to be an interesting interview. So check this out. So where were you raised?

Chapter 2: How did family influence Patrick's criminal career?

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I was raised in Vermont. I was born in Burlington, Vermont, January 1st, 1986. I wasn't the first baby born that year. I was the third, actually. And it was C-section, so I don't know if it really counted. My mom had like 50 hours of labor. But growing up in that era in the middle of nowhere in Vermont, it was work hard, party hard. And that's exactly what my parents did.

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By the time I was six, my father went to prison for kidnapping and sexual assault on a prostitute. The crazy thing is that... And, you know, it wouldn't really surprise you to kind of see a charge like that coming with the man when my mom met him when he was out on bail for capital murder in 1980.

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So he winds up going to prison. He had a good role model.

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This is the crazy thing. I moved up here to take care of him. And he lived for nine months after I moved up here when I got out of prison. And he told me as he was dying that He committed the murder he got away with and was not guilty of the kidnapping and the sexual assault. And, you know, he always said that it was his way of getting found guilty.

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He always found it karmic that he gets found guilty for the crime that he didn't do and gets away with the crime he did do. You know, but after he went away, it like ruined my mom's whole American dream thing. She was already a hard drinker. So she just went, she doubled down and just put all her effort into work. And then when she wasn't in work, put it into drinking.

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So by the age of six and my little brother's four, we're already raising ourselves. We moved to New Hampshire, Laconia, New Hampshire in 95. So I was nine. My little brother had just turned seven. And from the moment we moved to New Hampshire, we never had a babysitter.

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We would go to school at, at, we would go to school, go home, be home alone, running around the streets, doing whatever we wanted till mom got home five, six o'clock at night. By the time we were like 11, 12, she's at the Elks club every single night till eight, nine, 10 o'clock at night on a school night, just comes home verbally abusive to the kids, to the kids, to me and my brother. And, um,

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It was a real bad environment. So just being an impulsive kid, I always did whatever I wanted. I had to teach myself how to do everything. I had to teach myself how to do the dishes, how to clean, how to cook, everything that a parent would normally be doing, I had to do for myself and my little brother. What did she do for a living?

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She's been a professional human resources recruiter her entire life. Not her entire life, my entire life, but she started...

Chapter 3: What were the turning points in Patrick's teenage years?

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Let me listen to the drunk person in the room.

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387.713 - 398.202 Matt Cox

Right. Yeah. I mean, you know, things could have turned out either. They could have turned out the same way regardless, but you know, I can't help but think that that probably definitely, you know, contributed at the very least it contributed.

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Oh, absolutely. It definitely played a big part. The fact that my father wasn't around played a big part, you know, but, you know, she didn't she went out of her way to help me get in the system. The first time I was ever arrested, it was for threatening to kill the school security officer because he was trying to stop me from leaving the cafeteria.

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But when I'm sitting at the police station, my mother goes, oh, he pulled a knife on his little brother yesterday. I want him charged for that, too. I never pulled a knife on my little brother. She walked into the room and I was showing my brother a knife I had found in the drawer.

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And she came in, took it away from me, never said anything else about it until we're at the police station the next day. And all of a sudden, now I've pulled a knife in a threatening manner on my little brother. So now I have another charge on top of the first criminal threat. And she's doing it because she doesn't want me in the house. Right. How she made the house. What's that? How old were you?

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This was 2000, so I was 14 at this point. So she made the house such a toxic environment that I picked up a bunch of stupid little misdemeanors like petty thefts and stuff, the type of things that a 14-year-old kid will get arrested for, nothing serious, nothing violent. So I wind up going to court for it, and I plead guilty to three misdemeanors, two resisting arrests, and a criminal trespass.

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And when I plead guilty to these things, I plead guilty to go to a juvenile placement. That's how much I don't want to be in this house anymore. I choose to go to the most secure residential placement for juveniles in the state of New Hampshire next to the Youth Development Center, which is Juvie. I go there for eight months. I get out.

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I'm out for a couple of months and me and my mom are still not getting along. Nothing's changed at home. I'm back to skipping school, doing whatever I want because I was always smart in school, but I never felt the need to prove that I knew the material to the teachers. So I never did homework. I would show up and take tests. And other than that, I'm just causing havoc in the courtroom. Right. So,

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Not the courtroom, the classroom. I'm sorry. That's how long it's been since I've been in a classroom that the most recent special room I've been in has been a courtroom. So I wind up going to juvie because I wasn't listening to my mother and I was skipping school. That was a violation of my probation. They send me to juvie till I'm 17 years old.

Chapter 4: How did Patrick's first bank robbery unfold?

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I go on the run for two weeks. They finally catch me. As soon as I go back to my mother's house, the cops are there two minutes later. The first time I walk in the door and she still denies to this day that she didn't call the cops on me when I came home. But. They were there two minutes later, you know, like it's not like they were outside.

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They would have stopped me before I even made it in, you know. Right. But so. I get to the courthouse and I'm getting in touch with my lawyer and I'm telling him, like, I need to plead guilty to this possession of a controlled substance case before that pipe comes back from the state lab and it has cocaine residue in it.

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Law enforcement often questions him, not because he's suspected of a crime, but because they find him fascinating. He is the most interesting man in the world.

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1168.74 - 1175.406 Matt Cox

I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.

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It never works out like that. It's bike week. They ship us all out. I miss my court date, all that crap. So I go in front of the judge on my probation violation.

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I'm in front of the judge in superior court, and I tell the judge, I go, Your Honor, I'm not saying I'm guilty of the charges I was arrested for, but I was arrested, and that is a violation of my probation, and I want you to sentence me to two to five years in state prison for it. Because I know I can't do anything about the pipe. They're going to lie about the pipe.

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I'm going to get convicted for it. I'm going to wind up in prison anyway. I'm tired of being in the county jail. Let's just get on with it. And the judge goes, well, I'm not going to allow you to just go to prison just for being arrested.

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If you did these things, then I can certainly send you to prison for it, but I'm not going to send you to prison for it if you are just saying all you did was get arrested and you're not guilty of these things. I look at my lawyer and I go, will they be able to use this against me when the pipe comes back with coke residue when they charge me with possession of coke?

Chapter 5: What happened during the high-speed chase after the robbery?

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Their job is to get you out of the bank as quickly as possible and ensure the safety of the people that are in the bank. Right. So I knew I didn't need a gun. I knew I could do it with a note. And I knew that if I went about doing it the way I wanted to do it, I'd be in and out of a bank in 20 seconds. I'm just grabbing the money from one or two drawers. I'm in and out.

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And that's what I started doing. And next thing you know, we're running through 15 grand in a couple of days. It's amazing how quickly you just piss through money when it's free. You know, it's like.

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When you're actually working for money, which I found, I didn't find this out until I got out of prison, uh, this last time, but like when you actually work for money, you're, you're more inclined to think about what you're going to spend it on rather than just buy whatever you see in front of you, because you're just going to go steal some more money. Right.

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So the bank robbery that we got arrested for, um, the day before the bank robbery, we had gotten off the highway. And we're at a gas station and we're outside smoking a cigarette. And my co-defendant points out a little strip mall. It's behind the gas station and then probably six feet down. There's like a little hill. So it's kind of like you can't really see it that well from the gas station.

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And I look over and there's a bank there. I think it was the first bank of New England or something like that. New England National. I can't remember. Something New England was in there. And I go, you know what? That's a good one. We could hit that one first thing tomorrow morning. And he's like, yeah, that's a good idea. So we wind up splitting up. We connect later that day.

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And he said he sends me over to this prostitute's house. There was this literally this building in Manchester, New Hampshire, that everyone in the building was a prostitute. They all had their own apartments. But that's where we would go to hang out. Prostitutes have never been my thing. So it was just an easy place to just kind of stay out of the way.

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So I stayed hanging out with one of these prostitutes all night, literally just hanging out, doing absolutely nothing else. And he went to see his girlfriend. He comes and picks me up first thing in the morning. It's like six o'clock in the morning. And this was one of those days where like everything that could go wrong goes wrong. We get back to his house, have a bowl of cereal.

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Next thing you know, we both fall asleep. We've been up for days. We both pass out, wake up. It's like three 30 in the afternoon. I go on to wake my co-defendant up. I'm shaking him and everything. And he's, he's dope sick. He is so dope sick. And I'm like, he, he ain't going to be able to drive the getaway car.

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Right.

Chapter 6: What were the consequences of Patrick's actions?

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Because of where they found the boot, they actually wrote the crash report up to make it sound like we crossed two lanes of traffic and went out of our way to run this cop over. It was just, that's how far the boot flew when it ripped the boot off, when a boot got ripped off of his foot. So now we have two tires and all you can hear is, which is the wheels grinding into the pavement.

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And there's rubber, lying up over the hood blue smoke everywhere from burnt rubber it's a mess and my co-defendant's like flipping out he throws me a gram of coke and he goes mix it now i'm mixing shots of coke while we're in the middle of a high-speed chase and are you still thinking you're getting away with it if you get over the state line

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That's still in my mind because we haven't actually made it over the state line yet. Oh, the stop sticks also took out a cruiser, the very next cruiser behind us. So one of the cruisers was out of the race. They tried deploying stop sticks again right before we get to the state line, and we swerve around them.

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I don't know how because I had to hold the wheel for my co-defendant while he shot up, and we had no traction at all. I don't know how he managed to keep us on the road as long as he did with two tires, but he did. So next thing you know, we go around another set of stop sticks, takes out another cruiser behind us. We get a couple exits into Massachusetts.

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And finally, my co-defendant, as soon as we get over the state line, he looks behind us. He goes, they're still following us. What do I do? What do I do? That's crazy. Yeah, I'm like, they're not supposed to. I didn't know about the hot pursuit law where they can just radio ahead and be like, yeah, we're in hot pursuit. We're coming in.

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Did you ever see Smokey and the Bandit? No. See, that's the problem. I saw Smokey and the Bandit, and I knew that during a pursuit, they can actually follow you through multiple jurisdictions. Yeah. I saw Smokey and the Bandit. You didn't. And that changes everything.

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Right. I saw Public Enemies and their laws predate Smokey and the Bandit. That's why. Yeah, that's exactly. So we get off in Drake at Massachusetts is when we decide to get off the highway. And I don't know. I still don't know how we got off the highway because it was one lane and there was a lot of backed up traffic. Like somehow we managed to get up on the side and go around some vehicles.

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And now we're on the double yellow. And we're driving cars off both sides of the road because we're trying to outrun the cops. And it gets so dangerous, the cops actually stop following us. And when we realize they stop following us, my co-defendant's like, what are we going to do? I'm like, we need to stop another vehicle and hijack their car. Yes, carjacking.

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That is the way to go.

Chapter 7: How did incarceration change Patrick's perspective?

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They wound up giving him a consecutive 10 to 20 for driving the getaway car in state that he's serving right now after 137 months in the feds.

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So his admitting responsibility really worked to his advantage.

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No, it did not at all.

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3504.595 - 3528.592 Matt Cox

I know that. I'm joking. Yeah, I understand that. It's supposed to work. Like, look, if you just own up to what you did, then it'll work to your, you know, like to you, they pitch it as it will help you. It's good if you own up to what you did because then they take pity on you and they give you a reduction in sentence. But in his case, it worked to his detriment.

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Yeah. Yeah. And it was crazy, too, because when he was getting ready to go to trial, he went to trial on it because the best plea offer they were giving him was like 20 to 40. And so when he was getting ready to go to trial, I told his people, I'm like, he needs to call me as a witness. Right.

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Because I would not testify that I drove the getaway car, but I would say everything else that would allow the jury to draw that conclusion.

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Right.

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I will spin the story in such a way that there will not be a doubt in anyone's mind that I was driving the getaway car without incriminating myself.

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Right.

Chapter 8: What lessons did Patrick learn from his criminal lifestyle?

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Um, at some point in the thrashing, somebody got kicked in the ankle and they wound up with like a sprained ankle or something, but three of them wound up going to the hospital. Right after that, they go into the room that I wanted to go into where Gilbert was and they literally are pushing him around because of what I just did.

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You're going to shave this mustache and you're going to do this and you're going to do that. And they're, They're poking him in the chest, and he goes, hey, don't poke me in the chest anymore. And he pokes him in the chest again, and he punches the lieutenant. They pepper sprayed him unconscious. He woke up in the... He woke up in the shower.

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But because they did that to him, they didn't charge us for the assaults on the cops, and I never had to go to overnight jail again. You know, and that was the... The win-win. That was just the way it went, you know? Like, that's... Any situation that I had when I was that age could be solved with violence in one way or another.

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Violence was just my belief at that time was violence and fear are more important than anything if this is the life I'm going to lead.

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So I get to the feds. Federal prison, getting off the bus. It's a good day.

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The first place I go to is Bloody Beaumont. Nice. Now, in 2012, what they had done was with Bloody Beaumont. Bloody Beaumont was such a bad place to be for so many years. They shut the entire prison down and shipped out 75% of the people and turned it into an FCI. Everyone that stayed there, they gave a management variable to so they could be at an FCI. They did this for several years.

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When I got there in 2012, they had just changed it from on January 1st of 2012 back to a USP.

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He bilked some of the nation's largest banks out of an estimated $55 million because $50 million wasn't enough and $60 million seemed excessive. He is the most interesting man in the world.

4284.804 - 4293.631 Matt Cox

I don't typically commit crimes, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.

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