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Chapter 1: What led Thomas Baca to prison?
When I showed up to the state prison, I ended up cutting hair. I've cut John Jones, Diego Sanchez, Alistair Overeem. My thoughts on Vic Blenz is he's nothing and he's also fake. Sorry guys, I'm just telling the truth. I had been locked up at that point for about eight months. He said, if you wanted to, you can escape from here.
Well, in the school in California, you have a bunch of different groups, and I gravitated towards one of the, you know, wrong groups, kind of gang-related, and started hanging out with them, and lo and behold, started ditching school. I didn't sell any drugs or anything at that point in time. I was still too young.
I was still, you know, doing the right thing, but still getting into mischief, shoplifting from the store, from Target, you know, taking Walkmans, ditching school. We ended up ditching school one day, ended up going to some girl's house that we used to ditch to. She wasn't there. And one of my buddies stole a carton of cigarettes out of her freezer.
One of the other buddies stole a jewelry item out of her house. And yeah, which was kind of messed up. And so all of a sudden I'm sitting at home one night and the police come to my dad, mom's house, to my actual home. And I'm like, oh my gosh, the police are here.
Like I'm wondering- How old were you?
I was 14 years old. Okay. And so I'm just wondering, I'm like, oh my God, the police, my dad's really strict. You gotta, you gotta think about that. And so the police get there to the house. They knock on the door. My dad gets up, goes and answers the door and starts talking to him. And I don't really hear the conversation.
And then my dad tells me to go ahead and go ahead and get up, you know, get your ass up here. And I got up and, and that's when they said, we're going to be taking you to juvenile hall. And, and I was like, oh, wow. So I went to juvenile hall and And, uh, got to juvenile hall. The other two guys, uh, I won't mention their name. The other two individuals, uh, that were friends of mine.
Uh, they were also, when I got into the juvenile hall, I showed up to the juvenile hall and I'm like, Oh, there's those two dudes. They were both there as well. And so I was like, Oh, wow. We're all three in juvenile hall. Well, lo and behold, this is the first time I'd ever been in jail, juvenile hall or anything. So all of a sudden they put me in like these shoes that have Velcro straps on them.
And I'm like, oh my God. Well, then the other two guys were in another holding tank and they weren't getting shoes on. Lo and behold, little did I know their parents were picking them up. And so their parents picked him up. My dad elected to not pick me up. He was real strict. It was the point where if you went, you're gone. Right. And so he allowed me to stay. I ended up staying in Juvenile Hall.
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Chapter 2: How did Thomas get into trouble as a teenager?
Yeah. I was going to say, I remember my dad had told me one time, he was like, if you go to jail, he said, don't call me. You don't want me to pick you up. Like it'd be, you'd be better off not calling. And I was lucky. I never went to jail, you know, at that point. So when I was a little kid, but that kind of terrified me a little bit. So yeah.
Yeah, so they just left me in there and I went back to court while I was back in the juvenile hall area in something called Group 3 in Riverside Juvenile Hall. And so Group 3 was for kids 15 and under. 15 all the way down to like 12 and then 12 and under was group four. And so I was in group three. I went back.
They said, hey, some of the guys that had already done time and had been through the system were like, you can go to a boot camp for six months instead of doing a placement. And it's called Twin Pines. It's in Idlewild. They'll come and interview. You can get that knocked out and then you'll be able to get out. And so I was like, oh, that's going to be a lot better than doing a year.
So I, when I went back to court, they said, Hey man, we want to put you in a placement or a group home. That would have probably been better. But me, I was like, I want to get out of here quick. And so I told the public defender, I said, what do you think about this twin pines bootcamp? And he's like, well, that's usually like a last resort or whatever that they send you to before youth authority.
And I was like, well, you know, it's only in six months. I'd rather go to that one. And so he goes, all right, cool. Well, we could send you to the twin pines if you really want to go there, but it's like a last resort. And I said, I don't care what it is. And so he's all, okay, we'll, we'll have some, we'll, we'll, we'll see if the judge says yes.
They went in and asked the judge, the judge said, no problem. So then all of a sudden I went back to Riverside juvenile hall. When I sat in Riverside Juvenile Hall, all of a sudden one day they called me for a visit, and I'm like, oh, a visit. So I went out, and there was these people in military uniforms there, just boot camp uniforms.
And I assume two of them were inmates, and one of them must have been a cop. And they bring two snitch inmates to come over and sit and talk. You know, are you going to really you're going to run away? How are you going to do the program? And so, you know, really, I thought I was going to do the program. So I was like, oh, no, I'll be there and everything. And it's no problem.
And so they said, OK, cool. We'll let you know if you've been accepted. So like a week later, they said I got an acceptance letter to Twin Pines. And then I rode a bus and got shipped out over to to the boot camp.
Okay. Did you, what, how was it? Was it, was it harsh?
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Chapter 3: What was Thomas's experience in juvenile hall?
And that guy had so much stigma and power to him that I just went ahead and did that. And I went in there, fought him, got beat up, came back out. I was like, and felt good. Got my bottom bunk, sat there. That night, I had no clue what table to go to. You know, in retrospect, I guess you were a gospel.
I mean, really, to think about it, you know, as I am now, it's like you were really on that low level. Well, that dude comes over.
You were a what? What'd you say?
You just weren't really anything. You know what I mean? The terminology of gospel is just someone who ain't really shit. You know what I mean? And I, I, I am, I am elite, but I'm saying at that timeframe, it's, you were, you were 17, you were eight, just turned 18. You're barely being indoctrinated. That dude comes back over to my bunk and tells me to bring my tray over to the table.
I start eating over there. Uh, I start becoming really great friends with them. We, uh, worked out three times a day. He, uh, he was in charge of, you know, the whole car, uh, We started working out and then my kickout date came and I really, honestly, oddly enough, didn't want to go home. you got to imagine I was 18. I was a kid. I really felt like this guy was, he was in his mid thirties.
So it's like, he was a father figure, almost like an, you know, a mentor. And so I was like, I didn't really want to roll. I was like, where's he going? I'll just, you know what I mean? I'd rather roll with you, but you know, your kickout date came and, uh, and my dad flew from New Mexico, got on a plane, went to the airport, picked me up, brought me out to New Mexico.
And that's, that was how I ended up in New Mexico. That was the juvenile sentence that ended. And, and then I get to New Mexico finally. So when I arrived in New Mexico and I had got to New Mexico for the first time, other than just going there for family reunions, me and my dad had a falling out. I think I just became a little bit older.
I wasn't feeling, you know, the slapping or hitting or whatever. And I think he tried to yell at me and, you know, we never got physical, but, you know, I ended up leaving the house. And it was weird for me because when I left the house in Albuquerque, New Mexico, I didn't really have anywhere to go. And I hadn't had any friends at that point in time.
I mustered up a little job at a place called Keller's Farm Store and started working there, ended up getting into a place, and then really started going out and started meeting some people. And then started slightly getting into grass. And then once I got into that, uh, I ended up going to a bowling alley. This was the first time that I got arrested in New Mexico.
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