Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Chilling Search for My Father’s Killer | Cold Case Investigation
Thu, 01 May 2025
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Chapter 1: What happened to Madison's father?
At around 6.40 in the morning, the front door is kicked in and someone shot my dad. He died immediately. The people never entered the house.
How do you know that it was multiple people?
These men tried to break into their house first. They were looking for his safe, trying to get money out of it. They spent about 40 minutes looking for this safe to then leave with nothing. go next door, kill someone. He was a confidential informant for the police. Makes this feel a little bit more like maybe the home invasion wasn't the point and killing my dad was the point.
hey this is matt cox and i am here with madison mcgee she is the host of ice cold case and she is investigating her father's murder and we're gonna get into it check out the interview i was born in wheeling west virginia which is where my parents met so they had met a couple years prior to that in a narcotics anonymous meeting which is similar to like aa
And they met there and hit it off and had both been kind of in the program for a while and started hanging out, started dating. Then I was born. They were never married, but they were together for a little bit. And then.
they ended up calling it and my mom moved like a few hours south to charleston west virginia and my dad stayed in like this wheeling area which is sort of like it's very confusing because it's wheeling west virginia and then right across the river is ohio so sometimes i'll say ohio and sometimes i'll say wheeling but it's that area and My dad was still very much part of my life.
They were still friends. They talked like quite a bit, but they just weren't meant to be in a relationship. And so I spent time with my dad. He would come down. I would go up and stay with him. I had a half sister on my dad's side that my dad had custody of. So I would see her a lot. And she was about nine years older than me. So she was definitely like a big sister, kind of like,
model figure for me um she was really fun and sort of in her like teenage rebellious phase but to me as like a kid that was like cool so she was like really cool um and so yeah that was like my family and it was a little fractured but to me it didn't feel weird it just felt like this is normal everyone does this i see my dad i still see my mom i have both of my parents whatever
And then when I was six years old, my dad was murdered and he was shot in the doorway of his home.
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Chapter 2: What were the circumstances surrounding the home invasion?
Totally. And that makes this this incident so much more suspicious. I mean, it was really brushed off by the cops as like this accidental, oh, no, like this is crazy kind of thing. But when you really look at it, there's so many leads and so many obvious avenues to explore that just weren't considered. It's really strange.
OK, well, so so he was around. Until you were six. And what happened when you... Because that's where we cut off. So you were six and... He answered the door.
Yeah. So, yeah, I was six and I was not home at the time. I was actually visiting other family members in Texas. And at around 635, 640 in the morning, my dad heard something outside like scuffling, people yelling. So he got out of bed and started walking towards the door. Unarmed, I should add, because my dad did own multiple guns. He just heard something outside and was like, what's going on?
And by this point, the sun was up. So he just went to the door to see what was going on. He's approaching the door and the front door is kicked in. And someone shot my dad at point blank range, one kill shot. He fell to the ground and died almost immediately. And the people ran away and never entered the house, never stole anything, never did anything. And that was that.
How do you know? So quick question. How do you know that he heard something like was someone else there? And how do you know that it was multiple people?
Um, that's just an assumption. There's no other reason why I would imagine my dad would like randomly get out of bed and head towards the door unless he heard there was someone like outside. And to get to his door, there was like, the front door was on like the second level. So you have to walk up steps and those steps were right beside his bedroom window.
So I would imagine that he had heard like people running up the steps or talking or doing something because his window would have been right there. And that's what would have prompted him to like go to the door. This was in 2002. So it's not like a text message or something.
Right. Couldn't someone have just knocked?
Yeah, but the door was kicked in and he hadn't actually gotten to the door yet. So he was actually like walking towards the door. He hadn't opened the door himself. Right.
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Chapter 3: Who were the potential suspects in the murder case?
um all of the people over the last 10 years whose parents had had heart attacks that i was empathizing with and sitting with my friends going well i know what you're going through and like this happened to me and then realizing like none of that was true it almost felt like my life was this weird lie and that i was like unintentionally like a con person because i didn't know
that that wasn't my reality, but I'm living in that and like telling people that, and, and it feels kind of, it felt really weird to kind of look back on my life and go, I was so adamant that this was true and telling people this, and I was basically made it up.
Right. Yeah. You'd been misled, but you know, you were a little girl, like, you know, it's traumatic enough to throw, you know, who knows, you, you know, they don't want you to be scared and, So at what point did you start looking into it? At what point did you say, okay, well, was someone found? Was someone found? What was it about? When did you start looking into it?
I had a lot of questions at that moment, but I was so retraumatized that I didn't really even think about starting to look into this until a little bit later.
I started probably asking questions here and there all the time, randomly, like reaching out to family members on Facebook or trying to get ahold of my sister again, or trying to ask questions and reconnect with other siblings that were older than me that I didn't really know.
um i would randomly call my mom at like three in the morning sometimes and just say like did they find anything like was there like a shirt or like footprints or what size shoe was on the door that they kicked in things like that but it wasn't ever anything that i took really seriously until around like 2020 um like very beginning of 2020
I just had this like urge to, I don't know, start looking into it. Curiosity. I had time on my hands. Um, and so that's when I got the police files and started doing like a full deep dive of what's on record, what really happened and who was really involved.
Would you, you did a public service or I mean public, uh, like a freedom of information act only what the state freedom of information act, like public, uh, no, I just called.
I am like not a journalist or anything like that at all. I picked up the phone and I just called the Belmont County Sheriff's Department. And I said that I'm interested in these forms and like the files. And maybe they filed for me or something because they sent it over to the prosecutor's office. But it took a really long time.
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Chapter 4: How did Madison discover the truth about her father's death?
I definitely think I could definitely, I definitely see you with a, uh, with a, a bunch of, a bunch of different colored yarn on a, um, with a bunch of mug shots on the wall, you know, and there's some intersection and you're like, ah, so, uh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, there's there's definitely got to be more connections. I wouldn't be shocked if you didn't if you didn't stumble upon those connections.
You'd be shocked how many times the police don't have like it's sometimes it's just got to be it's got to be dropped in their lap, you know, and I feel like it does not for all police officers, but for some of them, it does have to be it does have to be someone it has to be somebody that's.
I hate to say this, but you know, someone who's like, if it's a, if it's an upper middle class, you know, white guy that gets gunned down, well, they're going to put a significant amount of effort into it.
And if it has media attention, but if it's somebody who's been in and out of jail, who's living a high list, high risk lifestyle, like they're going to make, they're going to, they're going to go through the motions a little bit, but they're not going to go overboard.
Right.
know unfortunately um you always see these guys you know the cold case files who track down someone from six some woman who was found you know raped and murdered in a field you know 60 years ago and they they exhaust all kinds of effort to find them and so people think oh that's that's how they really are you know but that guy that detective is far and few in between unfortunately
Most of them fall, most murders fall into certain categories and most people, most of the perpetrators fall into certain categories. And the moment it kind of falls out of that, then you really need someone to spearhead an investigation to get that done. And honestly, that's a lot of work for when they've got so many cases.
I don't know what the murder rate is in Ohio, but if it's high and they don't have a lot of detectives, and honestly, to be honest with you, if you're a police officer, the pinnacle of being a police officer for most cops is being a homicide. They really are the cream of the crop, but they're also overwhelmed. And like I said, you know, who am I going after?
There's a woman who has two kids who was killed. I go after, I'm going to really look for her. She's got two children. She's got this, she's got that. This is someone who's involved in drugs. It may be drug related, you know, so there probably did not push or do the effort that they should have done.
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Chapter 5: What evidence was overlooked in the investigation?
You know, the 12 year old me? Yes. I think they made it. Sometimes when I'm driving in my car and, you know, I start thinking about it, I'm like, yeah, you know, if
If they had it planned out like I believe they did and, you know, maybe a boat picked them up because there's rumors that a lot of the fishing vessels would, you know, toss out liquor and other things to get caught in the rocks for the inmates to find. So, you know, part of me wants to believe that that's why the raft was discarded because they were pulled up onto a boat.
Logically, is the water too cold and too rough and too shark infested? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, most likely. But then you're like, hey, but the family got that one Christmas card and the expert said, yes, the writing matched. And then you had the photograph. And again, the expert said that, yeah, that looks like them. So, you know, there's some evidence that they did make it.
There's some evidence, obviously, that they didn't. You made a great point when you and I were talking privately that it's very difficult to for career criminals, even if they make it to South America, to never have another issue, to never commit another crime, especially if you get there and you have no money.
Right.
So they would have had to do something. So did they have plastic surgery? Did they go straight? I don't know. If they, in fact, made it. Can you imagine plastic surgery back then? Oh, sure. Sure. Sure. It was rough though. Oh, it would be rough and it would be horrible, but you wouldn't look the same. So I guess that would be the purpose.
Yeah. Very, very, I'd say unlikely that they went straight, but. You know, who knows? Or who knows, like we were saying earlier, like, you know, who knows with identification? Like, they could have been arrested three states over for bank robbing, for robbing five banks and just giving them a different name. It's not like they were the APHIS. They weren't going to pull up their fingerprints.
I mean, they could print them, but the likelihood that they were going to compare them to these guys and they were going, you know. So, especially back then, if you had any kind of history, if your identity wasn't in question, then they really didn't question. Like, if they lived in the county for decades,
two years or assume someone's name or something or they may have just been like oh yeah so you live in new york you moved here two years ago he robbed three banks yeah throw him in jail he does five years and gets out who knows like you know robert chablon told me that his goal when he was still in alcatraz before he was released he wanted the prince on the bottom of his toes to be put on his fingers
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