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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Innocent Man Sentenced to 60+ Years | Earnest Jackson

Mon, 09 Dec 2024

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Earnest Jackson was tried and convicted for the 1999 murder of Omaha man Larry Perry. Following his 60-80 year sentence conviction, two other men were also arrested for the crime. Jason Youtube Page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3k6Qb0C1y_kbkZhdpH5kMg Follow me on all socials! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattcoxtruecrime Do you want to be a guest? Send me an email here: [email protected] Do you want a custom "con man" painting to shown up at your doorstep every month? Subscribe to my Patreon: https: //www.patreon.com/insidetruecrime Do you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopart Listen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCF Bent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TM It's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8 Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5G Devil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438 The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3K Bailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402 Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1 Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel! Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WX If you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69 Cashapp: $coxcon69

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Chapter 1: Who is Ernest Jackson and what is his case about?

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they admit guilt the sit the state admits guilt in like hey we messed with this evidence we did this or this person doesn't belong here and then they're like hey that person sat for years you should they need some compensation for their life because they didn't just lose a little bit of time they lost movement in in the world so with that being said and you and you're saying about the the uh confessions when they talk to them and whatnot we have what's named the beatrice six

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And Beatrice is a small town, not too far from Lincoln. And back in the 80s, and I don't know all the details, but like five of them, five youngsters were charged with an elderly lady's murder. I think they had sexually assaulted her and murder and whatnot. And they brought them in and they were saying they didn't do it.

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they got worked for a while and then they started saying, you know, and then, yeah, I was just there. Yeah. This person was doing this and this, except for one, he kept saying like, I'm not a part of this. I'm not a part. I didn't have nothing to do with this. And they done made a documentary on HBO, like one of them docu docu series and all that stuff.

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And so from my understanding is basically there's this private eye that kind of continuously walked them through the scenario that he believed happened. And they evolved with the scenario as it went, the finger pointing. And they did about 20 years. All of them, they went from young faces to the elderly. And then they got out.

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And then there was this huge lawsuit with a huge settlement that pretty much bankrupt the city of Beatrice, whatever county that's in. And that became a big political fiasco. Because one, you got them confessing and stuff. And there's a lot of gray area. So you have a lot of people that believe. No, they are guilty. You know, then you got other people that are like, look at what this guy did.

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He manipulated it, made this case in the what shouldn't have happened. So there's a lot of emotions there. And then now we got to pay all these people.

1128.021 - 1143.925 Matt Cox

Well, you know, a lot of people just think they think no matter what, I would never I would never do that. I would never I would never admit that. I would never admit, you know, something I did. Listen, bro, you know, you haven't been in that room. You're not a kid. You're not being you know, you're you're you're a savvy person.

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you know, intelligent, confident man that knows that you weren't involved and what not to say. But if you're a scared kid, you know, and these guys are telling you, you know, you need to help, you need to this, you need to that. And you start thinking, well, I want to help. And I'm not, these guys aren't letting me leave.

1163.209 - 1181.544 Matt Cox

Like if I need it, like you're thinking, well, if I say something, you'll let me go. Kind of like the guy on Make a Murderer. Like he thought he was going home. He thought, okay, so if I just admit that I was a part of it, then I can go home, right? They were like, yeah, let's go ahead and let's talk about that. What happened? It's like, okay, so he's assuming, and that happens.

Chapter 2: What evidence suggests Ernest Jackson's innocence?

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Cause you know, yes, if I'm the, if that, that old, that elderly lady was my family member, I'm going to be bitter and angry at him and think he gets what he deserves. But if I stepped away a burglary where a heart attack happens, every community has kids that go and mess around and, uh, Yeah, no, I understand. So easy. That's the type of rule that could wrap up anybody's kid.

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And as we know, privilege, whether you have all the money in the world or not, can sometimes not work because somebody now the example needs to be made to show, hey, we're not doing that. Nobody should allow something like this to be in the books. And it's in the books. It's a lot of states have it.

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1653.934 - 1655.775 Matt Cox

There was no bond. They're not giving him bond.

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First degree. What's the story that the police believe occurred and why do they believe? What's the scenario? Typically, they formulate some kind of their theory of the crime. What is their theory of the crime?

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The theory is These three, Ernest, Shalamar, Dante, went up, met with Larry Perry for whatever reason. I think to confront him about stolen tires, stolen rims, and got into an argument and then shot and killed young Larry and then all ran off. That's the whole gist of the theory. Yeah.

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Do they have anything that puts them there? I mean, they have anything, anybody that puts them there?

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Yep. And so what they'll have is an individual named Alexis Fulton. Alexis is like E-X-E. It's a weird spelling of his name. And I don't know how old he was, but I'm pretty sure he was pretty young, too. And it shows that he went in. They picked him up as a suspect as well. And at some point, he became the individual that could identify people.

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However, from my understanding is he could not identify the people in the mug shots to start out with.

Chapter 3: How does the felony murder rule apply to this case?

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Somebody charged me with something. No matter what it is, no matter how outrageous it was. And they said I had to go to a jury. I'm like, we literally have a body of people that just you just now taught me the law. This is the law. OK. That's it. That's what happened to us. We go sit down. They say, here's the rules. Find them guilty or not.

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If you think they're guilty, we don't have no way of really questioning you that. It wasn't a peer judgment of yours. Like, I just think he's guilty.

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You know what I mean? And that's going to deal with your life. And this young man went and got on the stand. And what he said was him. And this is the sum of it. And then we can flesh out the detail by him and Larry Perry. They met up, got in an argument. about the tire things. They asked him about a gun. He admitted, yeah, I had a nine millimeter. Identified that specifically.

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Seeing Larry Perry, he said, I seen he had a gun, but it didn't escalate into that. The escalation came when two other individuals showed up and was mad at him and Larry Perry for essentially making the hood hot, I guess. getting a lot of stuff going on. And he said they started yelling at Larry Perry. So Larry, little Larry, that's the young man that died.

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And he's like, at that point, I was done with it. So Shalimar walks off. And as he's getting down, and then I read the transcript, and he jumps over a fence. And as he's going down the way, he hears shots. So he hits the deck. This is in his transcript. So somebody else, I was there, but somebody else shot him. Yeah. After I left. Well, no, no, no. He's saying they're shooting at me.

2608.729 - 2611.15 Matt Cox

Oh, I thought they shot him. I thought they continue to argue.

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Well, that's a curious part is why are they not? I haven't seen or heard nobody say anything about interrogating these two.

2620.914 - 2622.835 Jason

Okay.

Chapter 4: What challenges do wrongfully convicted individuals face?

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He didn't admit it. He may have shot him. He damn sure may have shot him. But it was self-defense. Okay. So Ernest goes to I'm sorry. Yeah. Ernest goes to get sentencing. Same judge.

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Yeah. They put a pill in and try to, you know, peel the conviction because like, look, and they're like, you know, this is just this is what I got to do. And life sentence.

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Judge gives him a life sentence. 17 year old. Well, he's 18 by now.

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Yeah. He's turning eight. Yeah. He's turning 18 as this is this all is going. But he was 17 the whole time through his trial and everything. Yeah, and then as he's moving into the system, of course, he's putting a pill in, and them pills take a while. But in the meantime, third trial, Dante Chiles, Shalimar Cooper Ryder testifies, you know, because his case is over. Same thing.

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He doesn't change testimony, and they acquit Dante Chiles.

3953.983 - 3955.583 Matt Cox

He testifies that he wasn't there.

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Yeah, he just said the same thing he said in his own trial when he was fighting for his life. And he went and so and again, yeah, I had the same judge, but different jury. And that matters because now there's a different group of strangers listening to your thing thinking. Well, this one's saying he's shooting and now he's trying to say his buddy's not there. I don't think they have the right to.

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You know, this is not like a big old public thing. This is a shooting in the neighborhood. This is a normal, you know, as horrible as that sounds. This is just a normal thing. Street crime. Right. You know, so there's not like, oh, we know about this stuff. We know about this crime.

3992.723 - 4000.915 Matt Cox

So there's a separate jury, separate people, obviously, hearing the whole case for the first time. And they also...

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