Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Sun, 06 Apr 2025
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Chapter 1: Who killed JFK and what are the theories?
People say mafia killed Kennedy. I have no doubts that some of the trigger men might have been mob-connected, but who could make all this happen? Because the cover-up's even more important than the assassination itself. The FBI came in and were pushing doctors and nurses away to get that body. To get the body. They chip it out immediately. Immediately.
As we would see in the autopsy later, they had to do some things there.
Oswald's version is that he puts together... That he's been set up. Yes. Then when he's leaving, they video him.
Have you been way aware that you're the suspect for shooting the president of the United States of America? And he tells the whole world, I'm a patsy. Meaning, I'm the fall guy. We've had witnesses that saw the assassination. 48 hours later, they're dead. And word has trickled out that... This assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald may not have been the shooter, so he's got to put that to bed.
The scary thing, Matt, is this is 1960s America. We already know with JFK's murder. If you tell any other story, you're dead. Right. I mean, dozens of witnesses to John F. Kennedy's assassination. One guy car flipped over. One guy in perfect health died of a heart attack. One guy suicided himself. You know, just astronomical odds of people that witness the same event end up dying within 48 hours.
Right. It just doesn't happen.
What about the secret service agent that just recently came out with a book? He basically said that. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Dave Wheelhauser. Now, I'm going to say, we're going to be talking about the assassination of President Kennedy. And do you want to do, are we going to do Robert Kennedy? Yeah, we'll talk a little bit about Robert, because it ties into it. All right.
I'm gonna say Dave said, I'm no expert, but Dave's read well over 100 books on the assassination and he's done a ton of research. And in my opinion, since there is no expert license, I feel like he's definitely an expert. And so we're going to be talking about that. We're also going to talk a little bit about the new book that's come out by the former Secret Service agent.
And it's called Final Witness. We just looked that up. So we're going to talk about Dave's take on the book and the Secret Service agent's theories. And check out the video. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right. Good teaser. So, yeah, it's so funny, too, because, I mean, obviously, you've been on before. Right.
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Chapter 2: What role did the FBI play after the assassination?
Well, anybody who's even remotely associated with the event wrote a book. Right. It was such a cash grab to be even close to that. And that was when people read. Sure. You come up with a book, and you could— you know, make a ton of money on just book sales. Like almost nobody's making a ton of money in book sales anymore. But so let's start.
Let's start back with the when Kennedy took office. One of the things that Dwight Eisenhower said on the way out is beware of the military industrial complex. And that's basically the war machine and all that comes with it. The politicos in Washington that make money off it now and what he was worried about, we see today.
You have candidates that are spending two, three million dollars to get a job in Washington to make that pays one hundred and forty thousand dollars. Right. All right. Why? Because you're selling influence to McDonnell Douglas and gun manufacturers and Texas Instruments and computer company, anything you can. That's why these jobs people stay on them for a long time. They make a lot of money.
So war is great for the economy. Right. And he and Eisenhower was worried he could see maybe he was thinking about Vietnam. The French were in Vietnam and we had sent CIA and advisers to Vietnam. And Kennedy wanted to stay out of the war. Right.
So let's first mention that Kennedy. Kennedy was in World War II. Yes. He was what? In charge of like a... He was in the Navy. He was in charge of a... I don't know. He hurt his back in a boating accident.
Right.
And he had actually helped save someone or something.
Right.
So he'd gotten an award. So he was kind of like a war hero. Right. Not kind of like... He was a war hero. Right. Maybe not. He may not have saved 15 people. Right. But... So... He then enters the political arena and eventually runs for president. And Eisenhower was... Did he beat Eisenhower?
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Chapter 3: What evidence suggests a cover-up in JFK's assassination?
I agree. And you're so right. Mickey Mantle had breakfast of champions. It would be a little bit of little Tia Maria and Bailey's in his coffee. And that was his breakfast. And the press would be sitting right there. Right. So he's basically he had a drinking problem. Right.
He's making a mantle. Right.
He didn't say anything about that. They had there was so much more respect given from the press back then. Now it's, hey, you'll burn your source to get a story out. So anyway, getting back to Bobby Baker, a couple stories had come out and. You know, Lyndon obviously was not happy and because he knows he knows he's not going to be on the ticket, not going to be on the ticket.
And I know what the story I want to say. So Lyndon had a cabinet member. This was later on, but had a cabinet member said, Lynn, I'm going to resign. I'm going to go be a professor at Georgetown. He said, No, you're not. So I heard this. You're going to pull this crap on me yesterday. I got you set. You're going to go to the front line and fight in Vietnam. It's like, I'm too old. Nope.
I got it worked out. You're going to Vietnam tomorrow. Pack your stuff. He made him stay and be working his cap. I forget the guy's name. I'll get that. I can get the name. And that's how ruthless he was. You don't quit on Lyndon Maynes Johnson. He wanted to get a nice, cushy professor job. Nope, not going to happen. And
But he could also play the oh, why Bobby Kennedy would come at him like Bobby, why are you picking on me, Bobby? You know, play that. Oh, poor me. And because Bobby was was the attack dog. So Lyndon has this problem now. And it's Bobby Kennedy, really, because he's leaking the stories. He's going after the mob.
But if you kill Bobby Kennedy, Jack Kennedy goes after whoever did it with the full force of the United States government. Right. So you kill Jack Kennedy and it cuts Bobby off at his knees. He has no rabbi. He has no he's done. Right. And so that is where I believe All this started taking place. And Lyndon Baines Johnson had heart disease in his family.
People didn't live much longer than 58 years old. And he knew, and he was right, he only lived until 1973, that in his family, there's just not longevity. And it was his goal to be president, and he wanted to be president. And Jack... is going to be the guy on the ticket in 64th. He'd have to wait till 68. So Lennon had to do something.
Now, we've all heard the story about the night before where he comes out of that party saying, those Kennedy boys will never embarrass me again, those son of a bitches. And a lot of people were heard him saying that. And he's talking about the next day now. So I just want to say so much protocol was broken. And first of which, the parade route.
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Chapter 4: How did LBJ rise to power following JFK's death?
One shot went through Kennedy's back, out his throat, changed in midair, hit Governor Connolly in the arm, and came out and landed in his leg. And this is the shot that's now called Exhibit 399 with the Warren Commission, the magic bullet. Right. And the magic bullet is missing hardly any lead, I guess would be. Any lead from, you know, it's still a jacketed bullet. It's missing. There's no lead.
Yeah, it's in an almost pristine condition.
It's been fired. It's been fired. There's rifling. Yeah, you can see the striations on it. Yeah. But it's almost as if someone shot it into... Water. Into water. I was going to say water or sand. Not even sand. Yeah. Exactly. It was fired. That's how they do it in the ballistics.
Yeah.
Like, they fired it because, I mean, it's... Ballistics jelly, maybe. Yeah. It's perfect. It's in perfect shape. It certainly doesn't look like a bullet that... Because we had pulled it up earlier to show Colby. It doesn't look like a bullet that has gone through one person, struck bone multiple times. Because, listen, at that rate... that a bullet's traveling.
Anything it hits, it's going to dent the bullet. It's going to change it. It's going to alter it. And it certainly doesn't look like a bullet that's bounced off and even changed direction, changed 180 degrees. In midair. In midair. Well, even if it hits his bone, like I can see he hit the bone and it ricochets.
Well, then if it ricocheted and it hit that bone, then it would have dramatically altered that bullet. If it didn't blow it into pieces, at the very least would have dented the living crap out of it. And everybody's seen bullets that have gone through people. Absolutely. You know, they're smooshed. They look like mushrooms.
Yeah, tiny little flattened caps, basically what they look like. Yeah, this thing's perfect. It's in pristine condition. So that one, and you can go on the Zapruder film, and I encourage anybody to watch the Zapruder film when JFK is doing this. Connelly is still looking to the side. But then you'll later see Connolly he'll flop over towards his wife because I believe he got shot in the leg.
He got shot in the arm. Secret Service agents and nurses that went out there said they looked like there was a hail of gunfire. There was shrapnel all over that limousine. Right now, Colby also showed him a picture of when the limousine was at Parkland Hospital.
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Chapter 5: What were the implications of the Bay of Pigs on JFK's presidency?
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i actually was on the oprah show did i ever tell you that no are you serious i'm dead serious for what my brother was an organ donor and he died oh okay and the lag my last conversation with my brother was about espn did a story called ray of hope and it was about this guy jason ray who was the mascot for university of north carolina he wore the ramsay's outfit
In his divine providence, he was in North Jersey. He had the rare blood type, and he's 6'5". So there's three gentlemen that are all big. They have the rare blood type, and they need an organ. Unfortunately, he goes out to get a sandwich, gets hit by a hit-and-run car. He's dying. His mom, Emmett and Charlotte, back in North Carolina, they get the horrible phone call that nobody wants.
But basically, your son's dying. He doesn't have any brain activity, but he's an organ donor. We want your blessings. And those men, one guy got his heart. And so Emmett and Charlotte got to listen to their son's heart and some other person's chest. Another guy got his liver. And two other, there were four men total.
One got his pancreas and the other got his kidneys because he was in kidney failure. And so... ESPN got these men together to meet Jason Ray's mom and dad. And I was blown away. When I was 16 years old and I got my driver's license, my brother made me sign up to be an organ donor. And I was like, what? All I remember was Monty Python live organ donor. And I was like, organ donor? What do you mean?
He's like, trust me. You can't take it with you. Right. And it's a good thing. So my brother... When he passed away, his eyes were donated, skin and all that. They flew the body for free. And it's just an amazing thing. You know, there are people that are burn victims or people that have no vision. Right. It's just the last selfless, great, beautiful act you can do before you died.
But that Jason Ray show. Because that's my last conversation with Dan, my brother, that I ever had with him. I was like, dude, you got to watch this right up your alley, Dan. The guy's an organ donor. And I feel bad for his mom and dad. It was terrible. So I wrote ESPN a letter thanking them because that show was healing to me and my family. And they put me in touch with Emmett and Charlotte Ray.
So I'm emailing them back and forth. And then when they went on the Oprah Winfrey show, I was kind of like that other guest that came, you know, oh, and by the way, we know you've been talking to this young man, David Wilhauer in South Florida who lost his brother. And I came on the Oprah show and she asked me two questions. The first question I did great.
The second one I was reading on the teleprompter and had the greatest answer. And she asked me a different question, and I didn't do so well, Matt. But I've got it. It's January 31st, 2008, Dr. Oz's Medical Miracles. And that was on the Oprah show. It was pretty cool. All right. We'll have to play that. Maybe we can play that. There's a lot of plans. Well, I'll send it to you. Okay. Okay?
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