As the first vaccine for corona virus is approved, and England joins the other nations of the UK outside of full lockdown, we are all entering tiers of restrictions - variable across the country, which will continue until that vaccine coverage is enough to slow transmission in the community. In this podcast, Fiona Godlee, editor in chief of The BMJ, talks to Matt Morgan, a consultant in a intensive care medicine in Cardiff, and Helen Salisbury, GP in Oxfordshire, and are re-joined by Karl Friston, neurologist and member of iSAGE. They discuss what we know about the efficacy of these tiers, and how they interact with things like track and trace, and the mass testing taking place in Liverpool. For more of The BMJ’s covid-19 coverage. www.bmj.com/coronavirus

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