Exposing The Food Industry’s Dangerous Lies - Vani Hari - #867

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Previously titled “#867 - Vani Hari - Exposing The Food Industry’s Dangerous Lies” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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What happened at Kellogg's headquarters?

Vani Hari 0:03
Kellogg's. So two weeks ago on October 15th, I went to Kellogg's headquarters with 400,000 signatures, took them to Kellogg's front door. to ask them to remove artificial food dyes and BHT from their cereals that they produce here in the United States. But don't do this for countries like Canada, all of the countries in Europe, Australia, India. So basically using one set of ingredients here in the United States that are more toxic and harmful towards little children because artificial food dyes are linked to hyperactivity. They require a warning label, a cigarette type warning label in Europe when a product has artificial food dyes that says may cause adverse effects on activity and attention in children.

Why are artificial food dyes harmful?

Vani Hari 1:00
They've seen that when they study these different artificial food dyes, they contain carcinogens, so they're linked to cancer. They cause autoimmune disorders, eczema, asthma, and also the chemical BHT, which is an endocrine-disrupting chemical that you find in the lining of cereal bags as a preservative. They use that here in the United States, but they don't use that in other countries. So I have been demanding that Kellogg's sell us the same safer versions of their cereals that they serve in other countries. And I've been doing this for a really long time. I've been doing it for over a decade. In 2015, Kellogg's said that they were going to make these changes. They got worldwide press about making these changes.
Vani Hari 1:52
They got a lot of praise publicly and through the media when they made this announcement, but then they never did it. They said they would do it by 2018, and instead they created new cereals to hook modern children of today, like Baby Shark and Peeps and Little Mermaid and Elf on the Shelf and all of these different trick-or-treat type cereals to get people to buy their cereals. And it's really sad because not only did they lie to us, they continue to sell American children an inferior, less safe version of their cereals.
Chris Williamson 2:32
Is it true that they make those cereals in the same factories as the cereals that don't have those same dyes in? Is there any truth to that?
Vani Hari 2:40
At one point, I believe that Canadian cereal was being produced here in the United States and they were shipping it over the border. I think now they have a Canadian manufacturer now, a factory.
Chris Williamson 2:55
But yeah, that was... They had the capacity to do it. So we're going to talk a lot today about some of the more nefarious activities maybe of people's favorite high street food brands and stuff like that. Why? Why do brands do this? Is it cheaper? Is it laziness? Is it something new world order trying to sterilize the population? What's your reasoning behind this? What's your justification that you think they're doing it for?
Vani Hari 3:25
There's a few different reasons. The first reason is that a petroleum coal tar-based dye is cheaper to put into a product than carrot juice, watermelon juice, blueberry juice that they're using in other countries to color these cereals, okay, and other products for that matter. It's cheaper. The second thing is it doesn't break down as fast, right? Petroleum lasts forever. Carrot juice, you know, goes rancid. So from a preservation standpoint of how long you can keep a cereal on the shelf... It matters. So it's all about money and it's all about greed. And the same way they're using BHT to line the insides of the cereal bags, it's a preservation thing. And the fact that the FDA has allowed our food companies here in the United States to
Vani Hari 4:24
to create these chemicals, to approve these chemicals for use under their own safety data, not any third-party regulatory fashion. This is happening in the food companies themselves. They've decided it's okay to use these chemicals. And the FDA hasn't even reviewed, for example, red number 40 since 1971. And they don't even know the amount that the American public is consuming at this point, which we've done some studies and data and there's been a study done in Purdue University about how it's been a dramatic increase in terms of over 500% increase since food dyes were introduced to our food supply in terms of how much we're actually consuming as the American public. And

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