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Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

A Crisis of Financial Confidence is Reshaping the American Dream— Here's How to Navigate It, With U.S. Bank

07 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What financial challenges are Americans currently facing?

0.031 - 18.313 Nicole Lapin

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75.828 - 88.651 Nicole Lapin

Today's episode is a really special one for me. A few months ago, I signed a deal with U.S. Bank. At the time, I was still dealing with the wake of the LA fires. I was living in an Airbnb. I didn't have a studio or even a couch to record from.

89.293 - 107.483 Nicole Lapin

My team and I had hoped that we would find a partner that would help us rebuild the studio and that this partner would want to support our work out of a shared belief in the importance of financial literacy. US Bank got what we were doing immediately. And this is probably the most personal partnership I have ever done.

107.643 - 128.065 Nicole Lapin

And I will forever be grateful for the heart that I've seen in US Bank, which is exactly what I want to see in the financial institutions I work with, and I'm sure you do too. I have loved seeing how US Bank puts in the work to understand how people are feeling about their money right now. And what they've found this year is that there's a crisis in confidence when it comes to money.

128.467 - 140.028 Nicole Lapin

So today, to help tackle this crisis and help you feel more confident, I'm talking with Scott Ford, head of wealth management at US Bank, and Kate Phelan, California regional director of strategic wealth planning and advice.

Chapter 2: How can individuals regain control over their financial goals?

593.859 - 613.002 Kate Phelan

And what am I trying to achieve long-term, right, for the rest of my life? And what will that look like? If you're in the heyday of your career, you're in that building wealth stage of life, you need to be thinking about all of the competing priorities that you have. So Scott makes a good point. It's one of, I think, the most critical for young people is, I mean,

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612.982 - 630.169 Kate Phelan

Make sure that you're matching your 401k contributions with what your employer will do, because if not, you're just leaving money on the table. So make some of those types of choices. But you also have to zoom out and look at life is expensive right now. So if you are a young person in your career, chances are good you might have young kids.

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You might have other expenses associated with that time in your life. And so you have to think about how do I make choices that are going to be good for me right now without losing sight of I do someday want to retire. If you're in your 30s right now, retirement might feel like it is a long ways off, right? But you still have to make some of those choices about how am I going to prepare for it?

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651.944 - 661.399 Kate Phelan

Especially to Scott's point, I think that we're going to see people who are retired for much longer than they used to be because of the longevity that we're seeing. That means you have to make different choices.

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661.548 - 682.483 Kate Phelan

skip ahead if you're in your 50s or your 60s right now and retirement is really something that you're like, hey, that's going to happen really soon, then are you doing things like making the catch-up contributions to your 401k? And then beyond that, Scott and I like to talk about not just What does this look like for you financially? But what does it look like for you emotionally?

682.824 - 696.87 Kate Phelan

Do you want to travel? Do you want to start a new hobby? Do you want to adventure some other way? What does that look like? What's that going to cost? What does that take? And then bear in mind that that probably is going to look different, right? When you retire,

696.85 - 716.337 Kate Phelan

You may have your Scott, I think, calls them the golden years of retirement where you're out and you're traveling and you're doing stuff. And later in retirement, you're probably not able to. Now you've got medical expenses, things like that. So that's a lot to think about all at once, which is why I like to sort of, you know, zoom back to what am I doing right now?

716.377 - 730.001 Kate Phelan

I need to make some choices about what I'm doing long term. And then know that that's a journey and that's going to change along the way. Having a financial plan is super helpful to help you get rooted in that and just know what your picture is.

730.101 - 741.623 Kate Phelan

But I think when you can balance that you have short and long term priorities, it makes it feel a little bit more achievable because you don't have to achieve everything all at once today. It is truly a journey.

Chapter 3: What strategies should you consider when preparing to buy a home?

1540.421 - 1558.531 Scott Ford

Look, I think that first of all, that's absolutely fantastic. But you hit on something that's really, really important. You know, when you think about the big numbers in the aggregate, and that could be retirement, it could be paying off, you know, my credit card bills, it does feel like insurmountable.

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1558.551 - 1576.789 Scott Ford

So breaking it up into smaller pieces, I think, was super, super smart and very, very insightful for you to do that. And by the way, it worked, right? And that's why I encourage people, start where you are. Start small. Like, it doesn't have to be... I'm going to get this all done in a couple of days or a couple of weeks.

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1576.929 - 1597.373 Scott Ford

The reality is you didn't get in the situation you were in overnight and it's going to take some time to get out of it. Right. And you lose, you know, you lose 50 pounds, like five pounds at a time, right? Like you're not going to lose it all at once. And the same thing with your finances, right? Incremental improvements are going to absolutely going to get you there.

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1597.473 - 1601.617 Scott Ford

I think what you did is pretty amazing. $7 a day.

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1601.678 - 1602.399 Kate Phelan

Thank you.

1602.52 - 1603.382 Scott Ford

That's pretty cool.

1603.402 - 1625.03 Kate Phelan

I think the way that you handled it is sensational because you didn't get into credit card debt in a day. You're not going to get out of it in a day. And I think that you spoke about feeling that crushing shame and overwhelm. that's a feeling that a lot of people know, and then it can just weigh you down, right? And it will crush you.

1625.571 - 1641.938 Kate Phelan

But if you say, okay, I'm just going to chip away at this a little bit. Now the control is with you and you have to stick with it. It's not easy. It's not glamorous. It's not fun, but it is the best way to do it. I think with anything that we've talked about, right? Scott and I've talked a lot about that today, that it is these

1641.918 - 1659.488 Kate Phelan

little wins that you can do that really start to add up and you know I think people think that they've got to have it all figured out and they've got to have all the money you don't get all the money overnight it doesn't work that way Kate how do you think about small wins and keeping up momentum financially

Chapter 4: How should retirement planning change in today's economy?

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So just be mindful of that and you should be fine.

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Because lifestyle creep happens.

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That's right.

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2057.414 - 2080.502 Kate Phelan

I think in line with that, I really remind people, and we've talked about it a little bit already, is get started early. I think people sometimes get in their head that they can't start doing something until they're ready and they've got it all figured out. My dad taught me when I was little to save a little a lot. And if you get in that habit of just putting a little bit away all the time,

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2080.482 - 2101.53 Kate Phelan

it really starts to add up over the long term. So there's really never too soon to get started on your savings habits, on putting your money to work for you. It's not enough to just save the money and shove it under the mattress. You got to put it into a vehicle where it's actually going to work for you. But the sooner that you get started, if it's 10 bucks, it doesn't matter.

2101.55 - 2110.101 Kate Phelan

That all really starts to add up over the long run, which puts you in a better position to keep more of what you've made. I really like what your dad said, Kate.

2110.925 - 2111.947 Scott Ford

Save a little, a lot.

2111.967 - 2135.267 Kate Phelan

Save a little, a lot. I grew up in a family where we talked about money and I don't know that a lot of people feel comfortable with that even in today's day and age. And so I think that if you are, you know, you think about your baby girl, I think it's The sooner that you start talking to her about things like budgeting and saving up for something, I think the better for kids, right?

2135.327 - 2145.116 Kate Phelan

I really think that we do them a disservice by sending them off to the real world and saying, oh, by the way, it's really expensive out there. Good luck. You got to get them prepared. Oh, no.

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