The Parable of the Ox
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Thanks for downloading this edition of More or Less. This is the version from BBC Radio 4.
Here's Tim Harford. We'll find out why one of our guests from this series brought a suitcase with him to the studio and wouldn't let it leave his side. And we'll try to decide which is the greatest racehorse of all time. But first, we're going to turn our attention to a parable about the financial markets. A parable about an ox. It's a story that starts with a trip that the British social scientist and statistician Francis Galton took to a country fair back in 1906. It's told by James Surowiecki, who recounts the story in his book, The Wisdom of Crowds.
As he was walking through the fair that day, he came across this contest. And the contest was that an ox had been placed on display and the crowd around the ox was was basically placing wagers on the weight of the ox. So as Galton described it, there was actually a huge crowd there that day, something like 800 people actually tried their luck. And what's important about this crowd, at least from my perspective, is that it was a relatively diverse crowd. While many of the people in the crowd were butchers and farmers and probably had some skill in being able to guess the weight of something like an ox, there were also a lot of people in the crowd who were not, at least on the surface, experts at all.
So Galton, as he was watching this contest, it struck him that this made an interesting natural experiment.
Galton took all the tickets and ran some statistical experiments on them. With his elitist background, he assumed the average of the guesses would be woefully wrong. But this wasn't the case.
The crowd had guessed that the ox would weigh 1,197 pounds. And when all was said and done, the ox ended up weighing 1,198 pounds. So in other words, the crowd's judgment was essentially perfect. It was actually better than any one person in the crowd. And this is a phenomenon that you can actually see over and over again. You can do this with a jar full of jelly beans or pieces of candy or whatever. But the Galton example, I think, is a kind of perfect crystallization of this idea of the wisdom of crowds.
James Surwicky. Francis Goldson's experiment at the country fair in Plymouth is famous and well-documented, but not everyone has heard the rumours of what happened next. If you're sitting comfortably, we'll begin this tale.
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As the years went by, the competition continued to be a success. More and more people came to guess and the farmer sold more of his produce, which was the original aim of the competition.
What is the original Galton 'guess the weight of the ox' experiment and why did it matter?
But the scales became old and seemed to become less and less reliable. Repairs were expensive, much too costly for the organisers of the fair. The competition looked to be in danger until they had a brilliant idea. Since the people who came to the fair were so good at guessing the weight of the ox, why weigh the beast at all? It wasn't necessary to repair the scales. They would simply ask everyone to guess the weight and take the average of their estimates.
Newly invigorated and without the need for expensive equipment, weight guessing competitions became all the rage. But with popularity came high stakes. Some people tried to cheat. They even tried to get privileged information from the farmer who had bred the ox, offering presents and lavish dinners in return. the organisers became scared. If some people had an edge, others would be reluctant to enter. With few entrants, you couldn't rely on the wisdom of the crowd. The process of weight discovery would be damaged and that would be the end of that little game, and a very lucrative one at that. So, strict rules were introduced to regulate the competition. The fear was calmed and the integrity of the weight-guessing competition was upheld.
But with regulation came innovation. Brighter analysts realised that understanding the nutrition and health of the ox wasn't that useful anyway. What mattered were the guesses of the bystanders. Since the beast was no longer being weighed, the key to success lay not in correctly assessing its weight, but rather in correctly assessing what other people would guess.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:53
2
What is the original Galton 'guess the weight of the ox' experiment and why did it matter?
2:53–16:18
3
How did the parable transform the simple contest into a model for financial markets?
16:18–18:21
4
Why did organisers stop weighing the ox and rely on crowd averages instead?
18:21–20:35
5
How did cheating, regulation and professional analysts change the weight‑guessing industry?
20:35–27:34
6
When and why did the crowd's guesses stop reflecting the ox's true condition?
27:34–28:03