Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Vogue Williams and... Joanne McNally. Joanne and I are talking about the Brits and I love her so much that she thinks that I would be in a category for the Brits.
You don't know what? I wouldn't know what you'd be up to. I love you so much. You're like a proud stage mom. So what were you up for at the Brits?
Well, actually... Well, if you're not up for something, can people just go?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can go. Brands invite you along. And I haven't been. Well, I've never actually been to the Brits. I've only once been to the after party. Remember when I told you that story where I humiliated myself in front of David Gandhi and I woke up with my nose in all the beds. Yeah. So that was the last time I went. I know better for this time.
So I get to go to the Brits and then I get to go to the Warner after party. And Amber's going to come with me because you were not around. I did invite you. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
Yeah.
I don't you know I don't have to be invited to everything all the time I'm happy when I see other people at events when I'm not there now I will have a quick scan of the WhatsApp to see was I was there any invitation extended oh there was do you want
I wouldn't go to my own funeral without inviting you first, okay?
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Chapter 2: Why are men writing handwritten letters after breakups?
All the, I was going to say cortisol, wine rushes to my face. And then when I wake up in the morning, I have to do a lot of kind of lymphatic drain, de-puffing.
Yeah. We need to get those ice baths for our faces. Did you get me one? No, but I... If you go to America, you can get me one.
An ice bath for your face?
What are you talking about? The one that you breathe through the Kylie Jenner's.
Oh God, no. No, no, no. That's Guantanamo Bay shit. I'm not doing that. It looks like a punishment. Like they're trying to get information out of her.
Well, I want one, so get me one when you're in the States.
I had a message from a woman who had listened to the pod and she was like, I have a story to tell you about the air and gas. I'm not sure if either of you got it. Yeah, so we were talking about pulling it out of the walls.
Did I not send you a picture of when I was down? I went to the Bear by Vogue offices in Cork and they had this huge thing of helium, a gas canister. And I was like, sorry? I was like, what's that for? And they were like, well, we do stuff with balloons and stuff. And I was like... Balloons? And they were like, for decoration. And they just had it sitting under there.
I was like, try and snatch that for Joanne on the way out.
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Chapter 3: What personal experiences do the hosts share about receiving letters?
Oh, Diftas, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, sorry.
I was like, I know what the Iftas are. I'm not thick. I was like, I just thought you were saying something new, like the Diftas. I was like, I don't know what the Diftas is.
D is Dublin for the. Jo knows this. So here she goes. Just listen to the MTGM. Actually, maybe I shouldn't say her name because I think this is illegal. Just listen to the MTGM episode where you discussed the recreational use of gas and air and had to message. My brother-in-law, who I think had a liver problem, she's not sure, and couldn't drink, used to use gas and air like wine.
He was a non-medical doctor and would order it using his doctor title and then store it illegally in his cellar. Whenever the rest of his part took of a vino, he would trundle down to the cellar and bring up his canister and breathing tube. He would also head out and about to a chess club with his canister in a bag. There's a lot of woods and walls here. What happened? Is he still going?
Yeah, she doesn't say. There's no death here. I guess, I don't know, maybe there was a separation or a divorce, predictably. Couldn't believe it the first time I witnessed it, but everyone else just acted like it was normal. Unfortunately, without a medical license, you can't dispose of the canisters. So the empty is just built up in the cellar. God knows what they do if they ever move.
A ridiculous, but highly amusing little situation. Hope you're well, etc.
send his address on now go on we'll go down there for a little party we'll go for a party they're all empty well he's obviously able to get his hands on loads like a tomb of good time Joanne if I have a fourth child right it will be me I'm inviting you I'm inviting you into the room you can be my delivery partner Spenny doesn't care he'll just be like whatever it's the fourth you can be my birthing partner I'd say it's boring watching the fourth one come out first one you're like this is a buzz
It'll be nice to have someone new in the room as well who would be like excited, you know?
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts feel about the act of sending letters?
So I knew that the Prince, they'd redacted the Prince. Well, actually, sorry, I mean, they'd taken Prince off his title. But I had no idea who Mountbatten of Windsor was. Or what's his name?
What's his new name? That was Prince Philip's name, wasn't it? Mountbatten. I think I know that from the crane. I'm going to say yes or maybe or possibly.
I thought it was a different royal. I was like, ah, another one's in the mix, but I didn't realise they've renamed them.
I feel like if I got arrested, I'd really like to try and do the felon shot. You know what I mean? You want to have something decent out there. I don't want to be Nick Nolte. Nick Nolte has the worst mugshot I have ever seen of anyone. Can I look?
You want to be a hot felon. Do you know what I mean? You want to get some brand deals out of it, which is what, if you're smart about it, you know. Did you hear what Alison Hammond said? I can't believe they did it on his birthday. Could they not have waited a day? Poor Alison.
She's like, he's probably got plans. Happy birthday, get in the car.
He's probably got plans for himself.
Good, good. I don't think he would have plans. There wouldn't be many people attending his party, I wouldn't think.
Joe's just covering his face.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of sending heartfelt letters?
Okay. My sister has just received a letter in the post from her ex-situationship, signed, sealed and saturated with his cologne. And as I sit here with her, my gay best friend and my boyfriend, I know I'm sorry, we are all deeply perplexed and wondering why history continues to repeat itself and why men in particular continue to insist this is a good idea. Have you ever got a letter off anyone?
Is it finished? No, I'm just asking you. Okay, we have multiple friends and family... No, we have had multiple friends and family receive letters at various points in their lives. I even had a friend's ex message me for permission to send a small letter to her, which I gave him a large no. We think this phenomenon needs to be dissected, and we all agree you're the only people for the job.
Kind regards, Ellen. Oh my God, Joanna, are we that pathetic that no one's ever written us a hand...
100 letter sent to us. When I hear men riding long form, it bangs of manifesto, which is never good. God. Men riding long form.
Do you know what else?
There's a manifesto. So firstly, again, coming back to my very toxic traits, if a situationship that I blocked...
sent me a a written letter i would be thrilled because i've won i've won that note even the ones that cheated on me i'd be like how sweet i cracked and i won now i know i'm part of the problem that's how i would see it i've no interest in boundaries i only set boundaries to test people to break them that's what my boundaries are for the boundaries are there so that i it makes it harder for you to contact me but if you don't still try and contact me there will be consequences
I don't. That's fair enough. I completely understand that. But I don't know anyone who's getting letters of this kind. I certainly have not received any letter of this kind. I still have people blocked, though, I have to say. And I'm not trying to be immature. I just think it's for the best certain people that I was with. I'm like just blocked for life.
You know, I think I think it's pathetic to block people during an argument, which I have done as well. But it's pathetic. I know it is.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts view the concept of forgiveness through letters?
Do you know what is it? We need more information. We need an update on this.
I think it's the Olympic fella, but in letter form. I think it's really trying your hardest to get back with somebody, but it's in letter form. But we, I don't know how we're going to help you with this because we don't get any of these letters. I don't know anyone who's gotten any. Do you know anyone?
Sorry, Vogue. I will correct you there. Me and you, when have we ever needed to have gone through an experience to have a
wildly ill informed opinion on it we don't need to have experienced a letter I just feel really sad to be honest like I want a letter you're married with kids folk you're married with kids you're grand you're out of the game it doesn't matter you're out of the game even when I'm dead I don't care I still want a letter even when I'm dead you're not a priority for letters anymore or look maybe you're getting 10 letters a week and Spencer's setting fire to them out of jealousy
You are correct. Yes. You're right. There you go. Similar to Wuthering Heights.
I will take those letters and my Brit award. Thank you, Joanne.
Similar to Wuthering Heights when her ward sets fire to all the letters from Heathcliff. It's probably a similar vibe. I love the idea of forgiveness after time. I think there is a lot of pain and hurt in relationships, a lot of emotion, a lot of anger, resentment. People aren't necessarily thinking straight.
And then I think there's something lovely after a prolonged period of time for two people or one and a half.
What was that? Amber's trying to sneak by us and she fell off the stairs and dropped her coffee.
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Chapter 7: What humorous anecdotes do the hosts share about letter writing?
sorry can I just say you better vlog this Paddy Today Parade Marshall thing and you better do what your man Francois do you know that train guy Joe Francis Bourgeois Francis Bourgeois have you seen the camera angle that he does I'm still I think he is a grifter anyway that's my personal opinion I don't for a second I think he is playing up the the very nerdy train guy anyway it doesn't matter the point is he reverses his head camera onto himself and if you do not do that for us Vogue
in the car on St.
Patrick's Day in your poke mobile doing your marshalling I'll be absolutely fuming that's a request come on you need a back to front camera head torch and you need to look insane there's no other way to do this okay fine I will do you know what I might dress up as a leprechaun as well would that offend people probably it would
I'd say probably. Yeah, who would?
Sorry, they had me in a picture with a leprechaun. Who was that?
I don't know what he was. That was me. I keep telling you, that was me. I was saying, I think there's something really lovely and really sweet in years after the fact when everyone's calmed down and the rage has passed and the hurt has passed to reach out in a way with a calm, kind letter, respecting the time spent together and saying, Enjoy your life. I hope you're happy.
I think there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's really nice.
I actually think that you're like, do you know what? Because I genuinely like, I don't hold, I actually genuinely have no grudges against people that I used to be with. I don't have any hatred for them. No, I don't. I don't have any hatred for them. And even the people that cheated on me, I'm like, oh, whatever. But I do think it would be a nice thing to do to say, do you know what?
Sorry about that. I was a bit of a dickhead and I shouldn't have done that to you. And like, it actually would, even though like I don't need it, it would actually be a mature, nice thing to do.
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Chapter 8: What are the final thoughts on the topic of handwritten letters?
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