After a two-week podcast hiatus, Vogue and Joanne are back - broadcasting live from the glamour of St. Barts and the chaos of NYC. Vogue talks self-validation and Joanne is planning to start sewing...Warning: this episode contains White Lotus spoilers! If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.comJoanne's comedy gigs: www.joannemcnally.comVogue's Book Tour: www.fane.co.uk/vogue-williamsThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.
Chapter 1: What spoilers are included in this episode?
FYI, there are a white load of spoilers in today's episode. There are a white load of Season 3 spoilers in today's episode. So just be aware.
Be very aware.
Yeah, don't come at us.
Welcome to my therapist ghost of me, but me, Vogue Williams and... Joanne McNally.
Chapter 2: Where are Vogue and Joanne broadcasting from?
I'm dialing in from New York. This is like the Eurovision. Where are you coming in from, Vogue?
I'm coming in from St. Barts. We are finally on the same time. I'm only three hours away from you. Come over. Come for lunch. Is that all it is? Yeah, it's really close.
Yeah. It takes me three hours to leave the house in the morning, so I don't know if I'd make it over to St. Barts, but thank you for the invitation.
Chapter 3: Why did Vogue and Joanne take a two-week hiatus?
I could practically get to Hoth from London in that time.
OK, firstly, let us start the podcast by saying we can only apologise once again. We forgot to mention we were going on our holidays and just dropped the podcast with no warning that we were going to be gone for two weeks, which is unprofessional and unacceptable. And it's obviously we can't even blame Joe, really, because he's not around. He's still on parental leave.
That doesn't mean we can't blame him. Totally does not mean we can't blame him.
Joe's usually, he's the father figure. He kind of reminds us of stuff like that. So we're very sorry.
We're sorry about what Jo did. And to be honest with you, Joanne, I'm breaking up with everyone these days. So my inbox has been full of males asking me if I'm breaking up with Spencer. And now people are asking me if I'm breaking up with you. So I'm just glad it's moved on to someone else. Really?
Not a single person asked me, am I breaking up with you? That's so humiliating. They just assume you do the dumping.
It's a nice position to be in, I suppose. I'd rather be the dumper than the dumpee.
Everyone assumes you're leaving me and Spencer. No one assumes me and Spencer are trying to leave you.
Maybe you and Spencer are leaving. Is he in New York with you? I haven't seen him this morning. Did he fly back to you?
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Chapter 4: What is Joanne's new hobby involving sewing?
Yeah.
One individual.
Girl.
Girl. That's the plan.
Oh God, if it's a boy. Anyway, go on.
Well, if it's a boy, I'll sell it on Etsy.
I'll take it. I don't like being pregnant. I'll take the boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure I'm going to like being pregnant either, to be honest. So I might quit halfway through.
No, you'll be one of those arseholes who's like Earth Mother going out doing her grounding in the grass every morning, enjoying every second of it. I'll just be puking by your feet.
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Chapter 5: How do Vogue and Joanne discuss self-validation?
You have to make me godmother. There's literally, you cannot not make me godmother.
You'd have to be glad with her because no one else would take her for that length of time. You're the only one with enough staff. According to the Daily Mail, you've 19 nannies. Surely one of them can look after the mini-me. Otherwise, I'm going to have to get her to open the show. Okay, by the time you turn three, you're going to need a solid 15 minutes because you're coming on the road at mummy.
That's giving her a lot of time now. 15 minutes in three years, that's plenty of time. She'll be grand.
You managed to do it in six months. The baby can do it. 100%.
Can someone mute her, please? Tell me about your news story. Your press, your press.
Oh, well, let's see. OK, so basically I had, as we know, I am left alone by press, certainly in the UK. I've never really kind of tipped into that whole world.
I'm going to start ringing in for you now.
I'm in that sweet spot where no one gives a shit. It's actually a really lovely place to be. Because I had a pile on from the internet last summer and it's not something I would ever like to experience again. When the internet comes at you, it's horrible. We're not equipped to have that much hate from that many people. We're supposed to be living in a fucking cave. Do you know what I mean?
With the watering can, hunting and gathering. It's not our... It's not how we're equipped. It's horrible. Anyway, I open my Insta app and I'm in the Irish Times. I'm not in the paper, actually, on the Instagram account about our tour money and tax returns and all the shit that I don't even understand myself.
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Chapter 6: What are the challenges of public perception for influencers?
I was on the Volumes. I was on my own on the Volumes in LA. And I was at the start trying to interact with everyone because I felt I was, you know, you forget. You just can't do that. You just can't do that now. Like, it's just not, you just can't sit there replying to everyone individually trying to like, defend your character. You know, you just can't do it.
So you just have to kind of let it, let the wave ride over you. But fuck me.
Yeah, I know. But I just think that no matter what you do, no matter how good you are to people or everyone saying that they like working with you, all that kind of shit, there is always going to be a group of people that will forever hate you and you can never, ever change that. Like, I just... I kind of just don't care anymore.
And like, honestly, even with the shit that we've had to like kind of put up with over the last few weeks, like if that had happened to me four years ago, I would have been like completely devastated, really mortified. And like, yes, it's a little bit embarrassing because like at the end of the day, like people...
like that I know would text me and ask and I'm like don't ask me that if you ask me that you don't know me like if you feel the need to ask me that but like I think now I'm so used to just getting like so much shit all the time but it shouldn't be like that you shouldn't just have to get used to taking shit I know
You are like Teflon. You are fucking bulletproof. And I think people might assume that I'm stronger than I am sometimes. You're not able for it, definitely not. But I'm not. I'm actually not. I have a very nervous disposition. And a very overactive nervous system, which I've spoken about regularly. And, you know, the human condition is you want to be liked.
Like, you don't want people coming at you telling you you're a horrible geebag of a person. Like, it's horrible. Do you know what I was actually listening to?
Especially when you know you're not a geebag. It's like, no, but I'm not a geebag.
Do you know, I feel sorry for the most my mother, because when stuff like that happens, my mom gets really upset.
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Chapter 7: How are Vogue and Joanne planning to upskill?
And sparkle.
Curtains. I'm talking tablecloths. I'm talking towels. Imagine a flirt... No, not towels now. Come on. Yeah, towels, denim, like little boob tubes. I mean, because I have... There's this guy that I use. There's this amazing tailor that I use. But like, I was like... I mean, I'm not... I don't mean to... disrespect the tailoring community. But I'm not looking for massive alterations.
I'm not going to be making wedding dresses. I'm just talking about chopping tops and making crop tops and jeans. I have a load of stuff to send you. You can charge me. Honest to God, no joke, all bullshit aside, I am doing this.
Okay, okay. Do you know what I have been thinking of doing? If you're actually going to do that and buy the sewing machine.
I am actually going to do it like Rumpelstiltskin with the pedal and everything.
I wanted, right, I have decks that live in Ireland. I wanted to buy myself a little deck that all come in one with mixer and decks. And I'm going to start like properly DJing again and doing it at home. And like really like learning, like I can mix, but like I want to be like a really, I want to be Tiesto.
So I'm going to start learning that when I get home and you can teach me how to sew and I'll teach you how to DJ. This is amazing.
Do you want to do it? It's the same now. Sorry? You're just doing something again that you've already done.
No, I'm upskilling. I'm upskilling.
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