Looking through the fog of war
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Why are U.S. equities climbing despite rising oil prices and Middle‑East tensions?
So what's going on? U.S. equity markets are climbing. Even Iran has been firing on vessels in the Hormuz Strait. Why? Well, Donald Trump has extended the ceasefire. That might be helping their share prices. That might be part of it, plus earnings. But the ceasefire has only been extended for a few days. Oil prices are rising as a result of that. And earnings, can they really be that good going forward if the war drags on? You have to admire their positive spirits, don't you? It's Thursday, the 23rd of April, 2026. It's the morning call from NAB. Good morning. Well, big rises in oil today with a 3.7% rise in Brent pushing it over $102 a barrel. WTI is up almost 4%. The US dollar is a little higher too. It's around 98.6 on the DXY, but the Aussie also higher, but only 0.1%, close to 71.6 US cents.
But US equities...
How is the temporary Iran‑U.S. ceasefire affecting oil markets and investor risk appetite?
are pushing higher, 1.3% for NASDAQ, 0.9% for the S&P, but down in Europe, 1% off the CAC current, for example. Not much movement in bond yields either. Ten years, Treasuries are stuck around 4.3%, only one or two basis points higher across much of Europe. Aussie, 10 years. Well, they were at 4.95% yesterday. They're up to 4.99% now, so a bit of movement there. And Sky Masters is with me today from NAB in Sydney. Look, it's getting ugly in the Gulf right now. So Iran has attacked three ships in the Strait of Hormuz and escorted two of them into Iranian waters. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that President Trump will give Iran a few days to offer a peace plan. The ceasefire extension is not going to last indefinitely, obviously, and still no peace talks, but fears that military action...
Might be resumed. There's a bit of talk about that. More to the point, no clear signs of when supplies are going to start going through the state again. Hence, oil is pushing higher, but so are U.S. equities. What's going on?
Yeah, good morning, Phil, and good question there. I'm not sure I can give
you an
accurate answer. It is quite bizarre, to be honest, when you look at price action overnight.
What explains the divergence between strong U.S. stock gains and weaker European markets?
As you said, you've seen a surge in oil prices overnight. Just on that news of Iran firing on those container ships and seizing two, Trump has... announced what i've read he's announced an indefinite extension of the ceasefire um but you know they still seem to be at a at a deadlock both iran and the u.s in terms of coming up with a deal you know iran you know it's not going to reopen the strait um or take part in ceasefire negotiations until the u.s naval blockade ends but it looks like You know, the US is not going to end that blockade until until Iran comes comes to the table with, you know, in terms of ceasefire talk. So so, you know, under that uncertainty, as you said, the oil prices has surged significantly.
But the bizarre thing is, as you said, is that US equities are posting reasonable gains overnight. European stocks did close lower. So they were heavy under that uncertainty around what's going on in the Middle East. But, yeah, U.S. stocks are higher. They've been supported by strong earnings results out of Boeing, Philip Morris and Jeeve and over have all posted earnings results better than expected. So that seems to sort of underlie the strength in the U.S. equity market. I guess all one can say is maybe there's a bit of fatigue there. in terms of investors, given the mix of news headlines that keep hitting the wires. And so they're back sort of focusing on fundamentals, I
guess.
You know, the fragility around what's going on and the longevity of this conflict is The Washington Post has reported that a senior defense department official shared with the Pentagon that it could take up to six months to fully clear the Strait of Homs of the mines that have been deployed by Iran. And they say that such an operation is unlikely to begin until the conflict ends. So just, you know, nothing really, we sort of knew that, but it's just
sort
of highlighting that even if this conflict ends tomorrow,
Is there appetite for U.S. Treasury bonds after the 20‑year auction and what did yields do?
the economic impacts of what's happened is going to be felt for quite a bit longer, you know, well into the end
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why are U.S. equities climbing despite rising oil prices and Middle‑East tensions?
0:01–0:51
2
How is the temporary Iran‑U.S. ceasefire affecting oil markets and investor risk appetite?
0:51–2:05
3
What explains the divergence between strong U.S. stock gains and weaker European markets?
2:05–4:30
4
Is there appetite for U.S. Treasury bonds after the 20‑year auction and what did yields do?
4:30–6:18
5
How did the latest UK CPI and PPI numbers reflect the Gulf conflict’s impact on inflation?
6:18–7:46
6
What are the upcoming PMI expectations for Europe versus the United States?
7:46–9:06
7
Will Tesla’s earnings tonight reinforce the bullish case for electric vehicles?
9:06–11:02
8
What are the key takeaways and outlook for markets as the week wraps up?
11:02–12:26