If organisations know cyber risk is real, why do so many still fail to act before it’s too late?In this first part of a two-part special on institutional wilful blindness, host Darragh is joined by leadership expert and author Margaret Heffernan, Professor Genevieve Liveley, Director of the Research Institute for Sociotechnical Cyber Security (RISCS), and Kathryn, Head of Social Sciences at NCSC.Together, they explore why organisations often recognise cyber risks but struggle to respond effectively, and how leadership, culture and behaviour can create a gap between awareness and action. The discussion examines the stories and metaphors we use to talk about cyber security, and how these shape the way leaders understand threats, communicate uncertainty and influence decision-making.Looking beyond technology, the panel considers what resilient organisations look like in practice, how leaders can foster cultures that challenge complacency, and what practical steps organisations can take to move from simply understanding cyber risk to taking meaningful action.Part two will continue the conversation, exploring how organisations can translate these ideas into lasting change and stronger cyber resilience.If you enjoyed this episode, please do consider leaving us a review. Follow the podcast in your app so you are notified when we release future episodes and why not share the show with a friend or colleague who might be interested in the topics discussed today.To learn more about building cyber resilience in your organisation, head to ncsc.gov.uk.

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