Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman dive deeper into two core stories that have sparked major interest: the mysterious "party crasher" at the Dark Skies premiere and Brent Friedman's earlier encounter with Reagan-era official John Herrington. The hosts revisit the night an alleged intelligence insider approached them, suggesting their show could be used as part of a controlled disclosure effort. That moment takes on new weight as Brent connects it to a formative experience from his youth, where Herrington privately told him that aliens were real, that he had seen them, and that the knowledge was so overwhelming it brought him to tears for months. Throughout the episode, they explore the tension between disclosure and disinformation, questioning whether figures like Herrington or the mysterious JC were sharing truth or participating in a larger manipulation. They also reflect on the psychological impact of such revelations, the possibility of hidden knowledge far beyond UFOs, and the blurred line between Hollywood storytelling and real-world secrecy. The episode sets up future reveals, including the long-teased "formula," while reinforcing a central theme: the truth may be out there, but understanding who to trust is the real challenge

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