New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Bills New Coach, Championship Preview, Wedding Advice & The New Era of TEs with Greg Olsen | EP 176
21 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
coming from the natty last night yeah man i just i just flew back to charlotte was at the game with my family appreciate you guys having me on i feel like this has been a long time coming this is a career highlight every time you guys release like your new episode and i see who you chose over me stop it hurts the soul just a little bit dude stop it we've been trying to get you on for years you've been ducking us that's not true at all i'm just so glad that we finally freed you up here for a little divisional football talk it's the least i can do
Welcome back to the new Heist, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wondry show. That's right, brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups and Diagnamit. If they didn't put together two of my favorites, Reese's Cups and Oreo Cookies. God, go get you some, man. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason. Jason? Kelsey? Yes, sir.
Over there with his cowboy hat, all you city slicker turned country boys.
For real.
Subscribe on YouTube, Wondery Plus, and or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media for fun stuff throughout the week. Don't forget that KelseyClubhouse.com for anything new Heights and Kelsey. Jason, you want to tell everybody what we have coming up on this wonderful episode?
92% is we got a great episode for y'all out here.
We got everything from the division around, and we're going to get everything coming up in the championship round. And we got our mighty fine friend, Mr. Greg Olson. Don't stop by the show. But before we get into any of that, we're going to do a little bit of that. New News. New News. New News is brought to you by American Express. First bit of new news.
We got some great reactions from the Kelsey clubhouse. Thanks to you. 92 percenters from Steph. Also, the Kelsey clubhouse is a gag and I love the green hoodie, but I can't believe none of the new hoodies are called new heights of man hoodie. I don't know what the fuck that means, but she's disappointed. What does that mean? What's a man hoodie? Is that a, is that a thing?
New heights of man hoodie.
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Chapter 2: What reactions are shared about the new merch and Eric Bieniemy's return?
It's annoying not shipping with that.
They have literally everything on there. You search it in the little search bar and you got a plethora of items that you could choose from.
That they do. All right, from Pop Takes, my New Heights Show t-shirt arrived from the Kelsey Clubhouse, and it's so nice. Great quality. Can't wait to wear it out of the house. I wonder which one they got. The golden baby quality is unreal. I love that shirt.
The New Heights, all right, that shirt that I was wearing last week, dude, I was wearing that all fucking day. Might have slept in it.
No, no judgment, no judgment. All right, from Killer Scorpio, I need crew neck New Heights sweaters. Brandon. Brandon, this is somebody calling you out. Who do they have to beg? Well, ironically, it's probably not Brandon.
We'll work on it. Well, I like a good, when it goes crew neck, I like a nice knit crew neck, you know, or a nice little fabric crew neck. So we might have to get that in there. We're working on these. And if you haven't, please check out all the great new merch at KelseyClubhouse.com.
Ben, as of right now, this is officially, unofficially new news, but it looks like Eric Bien-Aimé will be back with the Kansas City Chiefs. Trav, you and I have talked about this a lot. I know EB was a huge part of this offensive success for a while in Kansas City. You offered a lot of not just great offensive schematic coaching and play calling, but I mean, he's going to coach you hard.
And sometimes that's exactly what you need. How do you feel about this?
I love that shit. I think it's great. I think it's a marriage that's going to pick up right where it left off. EB and who he is as a coach, you can see kind of his personality and what he brings to the table in that Chicago team. I know Ben Johnson has his own version of that. He's a very tough guy and what he did in Detroit, he brought over as well.
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Chapter 3: How does Greg Olsen feel about the Bills and their coaching situation?
Sound good?
Sounds right up my alley. Let's do this.
Alrighty, we got a very special guest to help us wrap up the divisional round. Oh, yeah. And that's right. Our guest today is the 6'5 tight end out of the University of Miami. He's the first round pick in the 2007 draft. He played 14 seasons in the NFL. Three-time Pro Bowl and two-time All-Pro. First...
tight end in NFL history to record three consecutive seasons with at least 1,000 yards of seeding. He's a founding member of Tight End U, and he is also a two-time Emmy-winning broadcaster for Fox Sports.
Please give us a giant welcome, 92%ers, to the best tight end on this podcast right now, Mr. Greg Olsen!
listen i've been a part of some cool shit in my day i've watched you do intros over a lot of episodes on this pod for a lot of really famous people and i'm not gonna lie i've laid in bed at night being like i wonder what my intro would be i wonder the energy is it the same when you introduce the rock as it is when you introduce me even more i have to say everything that i dreamed of it being it was better it was better
Let's go! Especially a guy in a cowboy hat and a saloon. He's in character right now.
A bit out of place right now.
No, dude, you're right where you need to be. You do a great monologue. You do a great open, dude.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Greg Olsen provide about coaching middle school football?
the Rams game between Devontae. But this builds the deep throw to Brandon Cooks. How did you see it? Did they get it right from your view?
I think they did. I think because the catch was going to the ground, he's not down by contact. until the fall through the ground is completed. So I get the frustration. If I was the offensive player, if I was on the bills, I would have been fighting my ass off too. But when you take a step back and you just evaluate, now we can debate whether that rule is sound.
We can debate whether the catch rules are clear or not. And that's a legitimate debate that needs to be had. But as it's currently written, while the process was clunky and bad communication and poorly handled and all that taken away, it was a correct call in my opinion.
Yeah.
Well, Joe Burrow agreed. He said the amount of people that don't understand what a catch is in the rule book flabbergast me.
Joe came out of retirement.
He had to retweet it in two years. I don't think I've seen him say anything ever.
Me neither.
all of a sudden joe was so fired up over going to the ground reception it got him out of hibernation listen if you're gonna watch the game you gotta know the rules and i'm flabbergasted if you don't flabberg and what a great word i love it i don't even care what he said to the world i'm just glad he used the word flabbergast totally greg you're you're the bill's gym you know brand you know bean what do you think this team needs from a coaching player all of you know
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Chapter 5: What are the key moments from the NFL playoffs discussed?
Like, this is it. And you're playing against, you know, One of the top teams in the league, arguably the best story in football. And Drake, who's going to be up for, you know, in the running with Stafford and MVP. So tall task. You get it at home, which is certainly helpful. And but yeah, it's a it's a I mean, just could you imagine?
I mean, you went through it, but could you imagine you just win an overtime football game in the playoffs to go to the AFC championship?
and you're walking off, you're loving life, your quarterback's doing a press conference, sideline hit, all this, and you walk into the locker room, and I don't even think 30 minutes had passed before Sean Payton broke the news in the press conference, not only that he broke his ankle, that he was done for the season. He didn't say, we're going to reevaluate tomorrow. Typically, he's done.
Could you imagine the mixed emotions? It's everything you said you went through with Wentz to Foles, but six days before the NFC Championship. In this case, the AFC Championship. Like, I cannot imagine what their day was like the next day waking up and having to piece it together.
Right. Absolutely.
It was wild. Stidham has some live bullets, though. Like, he's played some ball in the National Football League, so I don't think he cones in there with just absolutely, you know, no confidence. Obviously, he's got a great team around him. He's got Sean Payton dialing those things up for him. And I think... I think it'll actually be better than what people are assuming.
Obviously, Bo Nix is an unbelievable talent. What he can do with his feet, his arms, outside of the pocket. He's more of a gamer. And in the fourth quarter, he does have that ability to just make the fucking crazy-ass play or make the big play, the game-changing play. And Stidham definitely is going to have to come in and show us that he's ready for that moment.
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Chapter 6: What wedding advice does Greg Olsen offer?
But I think it's going to be... closer and just a better game than kind of how it feels knowing that one of the best players in the league isn't going to be playing.
Who do we think is going to take the NFC? Let's switch over. Switch conferences. We had two, well, we had one amazing game in the Rams versus the Bears, and then one just complete blowout with Seattle. How do you see that shaking out? Because Seattle just looks like unbeatable on defense. The way they have swarmed to the ball, they're good at every level. It's absurd.
Yeah, Seattle's defense is incredible. And I'd say probably the back half of the season, I was fortunate to have a couple of Seattle games, a couple of Rams games, had the Rams first round of the playoffs. So I had enough time kind of taking them in and kind of getting a picture of what they looked like.
And I thought going into the playoffs, the Rams and the Seahawks were the best two teams in either side, in either the AFC or the NFC side of the playoffs. I think they were the most balanced. I think they had the quarterback play, the offense's ability to score points, and then obviously being very good on defense.
That Seattle defense, to me, is how every defense in the league would want to be created. They're little. They manage the game up front. They're going to play with five or six DBs the entire game. They've got a lot of positionless, hybrid-type second and third-level players. They keep a lid on it. They play fast. They play in space. But then you still can't run the ball.
You're saying, oh, we've got all these light boxes, and they're in nickel, they're in dime. We're just going to beat them up. And you can't gain a yard. They're really physical up front. They've got good running chase players at the second level. And I think Mike McDonald is the defensive equivalent of McVay on offense. Yeah. I think Seattle's probably the most well-rounded team in the league.
I felt that way kind of down the stretch. I feel even more so about that going into this weekend's game. I love McVay. I think McVay is very unique. I think he's incredible. Stafford's probably going to be the MVP. Of all the NFC matchups, it's probably the best matchup. If you could have picked before the playoffs, I'd go, who do we want playing in Seattle?
100%, yeah.
I think the last time they played, it was damn fireworks. It was incredible. So that's the game I'm most looking forward to, and I think it's clearly the best two teams for sure in the NFC, but if not, I think in a lot of ways they're the best two teams in the entire playoffs.
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Chapter 7: How has the tight end position evolved in the NFL?
A familiar place that you know, Greg. And when that place is fucking rocking, man, it is a different type of energy, man. I got to see one of Jason's games, the double doink, man. Shout out to the Nags. Love Nags. But I got to see the double doink when Jason was playing over there in Chicago. And you just – it's a different type of atmosphere when the Bears are fucking in it, man.
When the Bears have a fucking chance, and right now they have one of the best and most exciting quarterbacks in the league, young, and you're starting to see these unbelievable plays kind of unfold. His ability to make this magic that he had in college. He's starting to get comfortable in the NFL, and he's starting to make these crazy plays. That fourth down and forever. That was bonkers.
Throwing it to our guy Cole Komet, man. Shout out to tight ends everywhere right now making plays. Cole Komet, man, that was one of the craziest fucking plays I've ever seen in my life. And I still get chills watching all the different camera angles from the stands. And I'm just happy for Chicago to finally get something that they can go out there and fucking cheer for, man.
I'm not sure if there's a cooler city in the country when their team is good than Chicago. And I was fortunate. When I got drafted there, it was right off their Super Bowl loss. They lost to Indianapolis. A couple months later, I got drafted there. It took us a couple years. We didn't make the playoffs. And my fourth year, we made the playoffs.
We ended up hosting the Packers in the NFC Championship game. It turned out to be my last game. I got traded that next offseason to Carolina. But, man, I got to see it firsthand. You know, it's snowing.
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Chapter 8: What was Greg Olsen's welcome to the NFL moment?
The crowd, the city, the stadium is in the heart of the city, which is very unique. And, you know, you don't see that a lot anymore with where they're built. It's a city that just loves their sports. They love the Bears. They've had a...
history of all you know between the Cubs and the White Sox and the Bulls and the Blackhawks like Blackhawks they've had a lot of success but man they want the Bears to win again they want it is a bear city and football rules is right so it was cool I mean watching that game in the snow Caleb backpedaling throwing a 17 yard pass 50 yards in the air
It felt like that ball was in the air for three days. And when he threw it, everyone was like, oh my God, that's what the end of the season came down to? It was like a punt. And then sure as shit, Cole commits wide open. Right in the old bread basket. Man, I thought they were going to go for two.
Ben Johnson had been so aggressive in the playoffs, going for it on fourth down, did it against Green Bay in the wildcard round, going for it on fourth, continuing to push the envelope, and then... had a chance there. I thought he was going to go for two, elected to go to overtime. And with these new overtime rules, you can debate how you handle it.
But man, that was a heartbreaking way for Chicago's season. But the Rams have won both games that way. I was there in Carolina calling that game when it looked like Carolina took the lead with two minutes and they looked like they were going to win. And Stafford makes plays and you know, McVay pulls plays out of his ass and puts it all together where they have to. He's so talented and so unique.
Um, But, man, tight ends all over the world. There's a lot going on here.
I mean, tight ends galore.
What the Rams are doing with their dudes. It's a fun time to be an NFL fan. It's a fun time to just sit back as just a casual observer and just take in exciting. I wouldn't say good football. There's a lot of bad football going on. But, man, it is fun football. And these last couple weeks of the playoffs have been awesome.
Get me fired up for this round, baby. Let's fucking go. Yeah, so we got Rams, Seahawks. We talked about it a little bit. But it just feels like that's going to be the game that, you know, the team that goes on is going to win the Super Bowl, man. It just feels like both those teams. the Rams having that veteran presence that we've done it before.
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