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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: Who was chosen as the Super Bowl Halftime performer and why was it controversial?
I haven't, no. Oh, yeah. Huge. Oh, okay. Huge.
What's the Niners record now? I'm just trying to see if that's scripted.
3-1? Chargers 3-1? Niners 3-1. Script is in. It's in the Bay Area. The Niners might be in the game, man. The Niners might be in the bowl. An all-Latino experience. Oh, my God. An all-Latino. Yeah. Los NFL. Oh, my God.
Chapter 3: What are the implications of Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl?
I'm curious how they're going to, not spin per se, but like market the entire thing with Bad Bunny. I'm just interested to see. The same way they market, you know, Modelo.
Yeah.
It's the same.
Y'all have a large Spanish audience.
Wait, are we being offensive? No, we're not. How am I? No. Just making sure.
No, that's not offensive.
I'm just saying they're going to market it the same way they market anything else.
In Maul's defense, the image that Roc Nation did pick looks like a Corona commercial.
He was on the beach with a fucking goal post. You know the Corona commercial with the silhouette of the little hut in the palm tree? Yeah. It was the same thing. It's the same thing. It's Bad Bunny. That sells itself. Good dope sells itself. You know that, Rory. Bad Bunny. It's Blue Magic. It's a brand name. Bad Bunny's performing at the Super Bowl. That's all you have to say.
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Chapter 4: How do Rory and Mal compare Doja Cat and Nicki Minaj's artistry?
Well, anything from his face, his white face, is going to come across. You're acting like I was quoting the Young Thug intro.
Why did Young Thug turn everybody white? What's going on?
Well, he said, Young Thug said, you know, the thing about what the music industry used to be is if you want to be big and be success, go white. So that's what he was trying to do. He was trying to go back to that.
This is his bluegrass album. But why did he turn everybody white?
This is not his bluegrass album. This is not. I don't even want you to. This is not Young Thug's bluegrass album. This is Ed Sullivan's show. This is that. No, this is not that. But that was his reason saying, you know, they used to have black artists, but back in the days, their album cover would be like white people on a beach. It wouldn't even be the black artists on that.
So he's kind of like alluding to that. If you want to be the biggest, you got to go white.
Okay. Was that a fake tweet when he posted, here's all my friends and was all the features and they were all white too. Cause again, I didn't have service. I didn't know if that was a troll.
Probably a troll.
I don't know. It looked like it was a real, a real account. But it had all of the features and they were all white. Which made me wish that Central C was on the album so I could see the white version of Central C that he would make. To just put a picture of Central C? If it was all them and then just C as is.
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Chapter 5: What sparked the Twitter feud between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj?
That's all I've been listening to all weekend.
Really? What? He put on his Back to the Future, what's the sneakers you got? The mags? You definitely put those on to listen to that. No, I didn't do that. You was walking around the house in them. No, I definitely didn't do that.
I haven't heard it yet. Is it more rap? Is it pop? Is it, what is it? I haven't heard it yet. I've been busy. Oh my God.
It's very 80s pop.
Very much 80s pop. This album is incredible. Incredible music. Doja... Bro, listen, man. She might be... Y'all know how I feel about Nicki. But Doja is right there for me. I think Doja, as far as her artistry, her talent... her vision, I think she's right there with the Beyonce's and the Rihanna's and all of them. Absolutely.
Like her artistry and her skillset and her vision, like her stage show, her performance, everything is right. She just doesn't have the big production
that those artists have but like her talent level her skill set you just named two artists that ain't even on the same talent level so like are you putting her on a level with Rihanna or a level with Nicki or a level with Beyonce I'm saying she's right there in the same in the same scope with those with those artists she's right there
What I was saying is them artists are not on the same scope as each other. That's why I was confused.
No, but I mean, those are like superstars.
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Chapter 6: How does Mal reflect on his ego and the concept of revenge?
You think that Doja can sit with Nicki talent-wise with rapping?
Absolutely. Absolutely. I think if Nikki and Doja get a record together where they're just rapping, I think Doja definitely holds her own. Definitely will have people like, oh shit, I didn't know Doja was like that. Without a doubt.
I think she would definitely hold her own. Agreed. But I mean, again, and it's not slight to Doja at all, but you know, she'd be... on a record with somebody that clearly had a huge influence on her. Oh, yeah.
As far as Nicki? Yeah. And I don't mean it that way. Everyone should be influenced by... Listen, y'all know where I put Nicki. But I'm just saying, like... But you can hear Nicki through a lot of Doja Cat stuff. 100%. But when you... I'm just saying, when you listen to a Doja Cat record or album and you just hear...
Just, again, the talent level for somebody who is probably writing all of this shit.
Well, yeah, Twitter, I forgot what page it was, put out a very misleading stat that Doja Cat is the first female rapper to have only herself in the writing credits of a full album. And I was like, no, that's wrong.
yeah but to what i'm saying she's writing all of this whether it's a rap pop r&b whatever she's like she's writing that she's executing it she sounds great if she you know at her show her her performance is is incredible like i just was talking about what she did at the vmas her performance at the vm she had michael bolton yeah i think michael bolton or kenny g
It was Kenny G. It was Kenny G, yeah. Kenny G. She had Kenny G come out. Just that attention to detail for a stage show, that just lets you know that this is an artist that is looking at things differently. She's paying attention to the detail of everything. And that is what a superstar does.
To me, I mean, Sans fashion and... producing to some degree. I know Doja Cat does produce, but she's more in a Tyler lane to me than she would be comparing her to Nicki. What? Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What lessons do Rory and Mal share about forgiveness and personal growth?
This was like straight up like, hey, I'm making an 80s pop album. It was Bruno Mars-y? No, no, no, not in that. Like, it doesn't need to be warmer. It's just like... Like, alright, Day and Night to me was like a Cudi... It was a weird version of like an 80s pop record, but Cudi made it his own and made it in this time. This doesn't sound like an 80s album in 2025.
It just sounds like an 80s pop album that Doja Cat is singing and rapping over. Which is fine.
I think it's great. I think that's what she was trying to do. Now... The content is definitely Doja. Hell yeah. What she's saying is definitely Doja. She's talking shit on it. But the music is... I think that's what she wanted. She wanted to kind of capture that sound, that energy of 80s pop. And I think she did that. But I think she still kept it Doja with the lyrics. Content for sure, yeah.
This is definitely... A tour that I will pay.
Oh, no, I'm going to the show. Like this is going to be. I'm going to the show at the Garden. Without a doubt. I'm not missing Doja again. It's not happening.
What happens when like the lights go too crazy? Epilepsy. What do you get? I would like I want to get epilepsy at the Garden. I'm Molly. If it's 80s themes with all the lasers like, yeah, I want this to be that.
Yeah, I'm definitely going. 100%. I was mad I missed her last tour. We got to LA, I think, the day after she just ended the tour. That's not happening this year. I will be at the Garden for that Doja show, without a doubt. Got to see her live. She's one of those artists that I feel like I have to see it.
I have to actually go to the show and just see it and feel the energy and what her fan base is.
I'm mad I missed Global Citizen Fest in New York this weekend.
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Chapter 8: How do Rory and Mal view the role of ego in relationships?
I know I wasn't crazy. Shakira, Cardi B, Tyla, Ira Starr, Mariah The Scientist, Camilo, Eliana. Yeah.
Okay. Oh, I'm sure that was fun.
Yeah.
We missed it, but it's fine. Well, yeah. Check out Doja Cat's album. I'm curious to see what the visuals look like on this. I'm actually shocked with that type of production that she didn't release... Like, similar to what Beyonce did with this self-titled album. Like, a visual for every single song. Because this is one of those that I think, like, every song warrants.
Even if they did, like, a short film of all the songs, I think that would make sense. Because there's so much you can do with that 80s pop shit. For sure. But, yeah. Other than that, she's been on a run. I mean, from 2021 to 2025, four projects. Like... She's staying super consistent for being an A-list artist.
She's incredible, man. I love Doja Cat. I'm like a Doja Cat fan.
I love that.
Like a real Doja Cat fan. Maybe she'll come on the pod. Yeah. Let's get Doja on, man. I might DM her. I'll DM her and see if she responds. If she can't come on, we can maybe just do like a chat online. Yeah. Something. Yeah, just a little chat. Have her in the Zoom room. She can show us her feet.
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