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Episode 24 | “Unleash The Dragon”

07 Dec 2021

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the name Ashley in hip hop culture?

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5.878 - 9.483 Daniel Alarcon

I'm Daniel Alarcón, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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9.783 - 14.69 John Green

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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14.87 - 26.865 Daniel Alarcon

On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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27.031 - 34.662 John Green

Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

36.11 - 48.381 Julian Edelman

This is Julian Edelman, host of Games With Names. On our latest episode, we got comedian Blake Anderson from Workaholics and the hilarious This Is Important podcast. Let's go! We did beat them in improv.

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You had an improv against the team? Yes, we would pull up their schools, would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of Goldschlager. James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it. For more Games With Names, visit the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what y'all say.

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Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor IV. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.

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Listen to The Clifford Show starting on April 20th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

Chapter 2: Which names have been negatively impacted by hip hop songs?

437.76 - 446.708 Rory

Just, but like, what am I going to do? I could just watch the show. I can't even hear the show. I'm just looking out a window. It was a thing where the artists would come to the window, wave at you.

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446.788 - 447.188 John Green

I remember.

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447.228 - 457.502 Rory

Because there wasn't no social media. That's how you saw your favorite celebrities, your artists. You had to go to Times Square and TRL, MTV building and wave at them. And then sometimes, what was his name?

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The host of the show?

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458.763 - 470.334 Rory

Carson Daly. He would invite people up from the street. That was cool. That was a cool thing they would do. Invite some fans up from outside. I sat next to Carson Daly at, I think, the Salon Show. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he looked good.

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Whatever happened to Cisco, then what happened to Carson Daly?

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Ryan Seacrest happened to Carson Daly.

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Spicy.

479.448 - 481.611 Rory

Damn. Yeah, it was Ryan Seacrest. Seacrest got him out?

Chapter 3: What are the opinions on DMX’s documentary?

481.631 - 487.62 Rory

Yeah, Seacrest got him out of here. Because he admitted he was gay. See? Did Seacrest, is Ryan Seacrest gay?

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488.714 - 513.895 Rory

yes all right man really i didn't know i don't keep up i don't know who's announced i don't keep up with the announcement you're not on the email list no i don't know who's the closet list yeah like i don't know um i yeah i guess that's true because carson daly he should be doing all the shit that ryan seacrest is doing yeah ryan seacrest and then once american idol became what it is ryan seacrest got everybody out of here and then terence j showed up i don't know terence j was able to really seacrest is not gay

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514.718 - 515.501 Rory

Thank you, Jesus.

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Sorry. We're just playing gay on everybody. Yeah. Brian Seacrest has never come out officially as gay.

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520.912 - 535.527 Rory

What do you mean officially? He's leading to the rumors. He's leading to the rumors. He ain't get his gay verified check. Yeah, like I don't understand what's happening right now. Why y'all just telling everybody to come out the closet? Listen, I killed off Willis from Different Strokes. So on this podcast, I just be saying anything apparently. I'm sorry, Todd Bridges.

535.707 - 556.229 Rory

I thought... Thought he was out of here? I thought everyone from Different Strokes had passed. No, Todd Bridges is still... I apologize. And if I made Cisco and Ryan Seacrest gay, I apologize for that too. Whatever their sexual preference is, they're both very hard workers. Exactly. Unleashing dragons on... Unleashing American idols. Oh, man.

556.249 - 576.832 Rory

What do you think about Madonna and how she's been looking? How she's been looking? Yeah. With her IG photos. I think Madonna looks good for her age. Okay. Yeah. I think she's still like in shape. I think she, you know, I mean, she's, you know, white people, y'all age bad. So we're going to see the age. It's racist.

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Maul says that every episode. They do though. Every episode.

580.963 - 581.403 Rory

Y'all say it.

Chapter 4: How do Brent and SZA compare in terms of toxicity?

951.14 - 977.262 Rory

Every time he gets with one of those big, big, big producers, I feel like they missed the mark. And when he does like the regular shit, he picks great beats. Okay. Because a lot of on I Am when he was doing Trackmaster shit, Dre shit. I think... Is Timbo on? I am? I forgot. He just picked bad beats for the time of the iconic producer at that moment.

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978.103 - 998.23 Rory

Whereas Jay would always get the best beats from the biggest producers. And Nas just always fell flat, I feel like, with A-list producers. But when he... Most of his albums are not A-list producers. And they're fine there. Like, Get Down is a fucking amazing beat. I don't know who did the beat. Like, when Nas does... Regular shit, he's fine.

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999.152 - 1022.206 Rory

We was having a conversation this weekend about some of our favorite rap artists. And when they get into the later part of their careers, just having like a lot of terrible albums. Let's not be PC. Come on. I know y'all said names. Say them. Snoop has a lot of terrible albums. Snoop has more shitty albums than he has good ones. Yeah. And I love Snoop. He's one of my favorite rappers.

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1022.386 - 1039.577 Rory

He's the most famous rapper. When you sit back and start going through your iTunes library and listening to some of Snoop's albums, you're like, all right, what was Snoop giving us right here? What was he doing? We didn't need this album right here. I mean, he continued to put out... Snoop always finds a way to stay relevant musically because he's fucking Snoop Dogg. Yeah.

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1039.597 - 1063.534 Rory

And he'll catch one and then you'll go to the album like, all right. Yeah. I'm glad I just have a single. Yeah. Like, it's just like... But he has a lot of albums like that. It's like 15 albums. How many albums does Snoop go get? He definitely has more than 12 albums for sure. But he's probably the most famous rapper ever. He's the most famous rapper ever. So it's like, you know, I love Snoop.

1063.714 - 1079.106 Rory

He's, again, he has classic, I mean, doggy style, but that did for, you know, I'm like, I had to, like I said on here before, sneak to listen to that album. So that is like a very special album to me because it was something that I wasn't supposed to hear. Yeah. And, you know,

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Snoop Dogg has 18 studio albums.

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18?

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18 studio albums, five collaborative albums, 17 compilation albums, 25 mixtapes.

Chapter 5: What do the hosts think about SZA's 'I Hate You' and its themes of contradiction?

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All right, so SZA, I love this record. I hate you.

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3757.621 - 3767.354 Rory

When I saw the title, I knew SZA was going to come. You knew what was happening. When I saw the artwork, I was like, oh, I see it. If SZA's coming with that type of title, we know what time it's going to be.

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But it did show just how toxic women are. She started the record with, I'm sick of y'all. Y'all so contradicting. Okay. I can understand that. The entire chorus of I Hate You is a contradiction.

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3787.692 - 3815.573 Rory

how you start a record with I hate y'all y'all are so contradictive if that's even a word contradicting and then your chorus is I've been up heavy reminiscing heavy on the missing on you wish it was different than what it was I've been up baby lost in the lines of us lost finding us she misses the dude clearly yeah and then from the pre-chorus we get into the chorus of yo I hate you mm-hmm

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What she's really saying, Rory, is she hates the fact that she loves this man so much and she can't stop thinking about him. She wished she could get over him, but she can't. Okay. Now, she said this in the song. Now, I know those text messages were the contradictive shit. Absolutely. She's saying how much she loves this dude, wants to be with this dude.

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And I know all she did was curse him out via text. And now he's listening to this shit like, wait, what do you want? Do you hate me or do you want me? So the nerve of SZA to say y'all are contradicting yourself. No, what's her full name? Solana. Solana.

3853.238 - 3871.893 Rory

You're the contradictor here. I just, listen, a friend of mine that I follow, she posted something that I thought was really interesting. She said, toxic mothers are just as bad as absent fathers. But y'all not ready to have that conversation.

Chapter 6: How do the hosts compare the toxicity of men and women in relationships?

3873.495 - 3888.269 Rory

They can be more damaging. And I thought about that for a long time. I was like, wow, I never really thought about that. We always talk about dating the girl with daddy issues. I've dated the girl with mommy issues.

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It's actually worse. Because with the daddy issues... We all know sometimes women will try to find their father in you or things of that nature. It's easier to navigate through daddy issues because you're a man. When she has mommy issues... You can't fix those or try to work through those with her because that's strictly a mother-daughter experience that us men have never had or will have.

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3918.112 - 3935.968 Rory

Yeah, we can't speak to the roles of women. So the way a mother can be damaging, yes, the ability of abandonment, of course, can go in crazy places. But typically that's paired with... You don't usually have the toxic mother and not the abandoned father.

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Right.

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3936.729 - 3958.386 Rory

So usually those things can go hand in hand. And when you're looking for confidence from your parent and you have the toxic mother who hates her fucking life and takes out all her shit on her kid, that's a recipe for fucking disaster. It is. And it's something that is real common. And that's why me reading that, I thought about it a lot. I thought about a lot of women that I know.

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and the relationships with their mothers. And when you think about it, it's like, oh, okay, you can start to understand why certain things happened. And this woman is the way she is. And her relationship with her mom is so, you know, strained. And it's like, you know, but it's a thing in talking to women. I didn't realize how common it was for mothers and daughters to have strained relationships.

3982.522 - 4001.181 Rory

Especially as they get older. And I don't know if it's because You know, as a mother, as your kids start to become adults, you start to feel like your place in their life has changed. Sure. Or if they, you know, it's just a thing of I raised you, so I'm always above you. I'm always like you always.

Chapter 7: What insights do the hosts share about DMX's documentary?

4001.902 - 4023.611 Rory

It's a weird thing. You know what I mean? And sometimes, you know, it affects the family in a negative way. And I think that, you know, and reading that toxic mothers are just as bad as absent fathers is. Like you said earlier, it might be worse. I mean, again, it always depends on the person and how they deal with abandonment. Because the absent father can definitely fuck you up. We know that.

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4023.791 - 4049.976 Rory

That's for sure. But I think a lot of mothers, and in my experience with women, it's the mothers that don't think they're toxic that sometimes are worse. Because we know women that have had shitty mothers. Absolutely. the mothers that are so scared their daughter is gonna go through the same pain they went through, project that in a way I feel like they may not realize.

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Cause they'll fuck their daughter up with trying to protect them from some shit. and really fuck their life up of how they're going about shit. Like women will go out and try to date or like, I want to go out and do this or like they'll literally protect them and hold them in there. So they can't ever experience shit in life. And it's like, this is another toxic behavior over here, mom.

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4072.43 - 4095.259 Rory

Like you can't protect your kid from everything. And then her view on men and her view on sex Life in itself and relationships is now only based off her mother-daughter relationship because all her mother has done is try to protect her from being hurt. Right. And now she only thinks when she goes out that she's going to get hurt and she's never experienced it. And that's some toxic shit.

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And the mother's there thinking, I'm trying to protect my child.

4097.561 - 4097.962 John Green

No, you're not.

4098.022 - 4100.625 Rory

You're damaging. That's hurting your child. Yeah.

4101.28 - 4125.955 Rory

out granted i don't have kids so who am i to judge but yeah that mother shit we big moms up a lot but if they're toxic they out here oh no for sure i got a text from a girl i used to uh be cool with she said fuck you i hate you i'm never speaking to you again and i almost replied mind you haven't spoken to this girl in maybe a year after the scissor record this was yeah this was after the scissor record came out

4126.12 - 4145.148 Rory

And I thought about it. I was like, you texted me to tell me you're never speaking to me again, but we haven't spoken in almost a year. That means she wants to speak to you. Can we get some context? I know you're the most private person on earth, but how did this end? How did you meet this woman? How far did y'all deal in your situation? I mean, we had sex a couple of times. Okay.

Chapter 8: What are the hosts' thoughts on the recent Bone Thugs and Three 6 Mafia versus?

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Inviting somebody to the Franks. I hate you. You know, she dropped the F-bomb on me. She dropped the F-bomb on me. And once a woman starts talking to me like that. Which F-bomb?

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She said, fuck you.

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4203.797 - 4204.698 Rory

No, the other F-bomb.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's toxic. Yeah. We need to talk to her mother. This is... This is all tied in together. I'm trying to, I'm painting a picture for you. Yeah, no. So once she said that, I could never unhear that.

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Do you remember the last interaction y'all had a year ago?

4225.536 - 4242.178 Rory

It was putting in the Uber. She was going to the airport. And it was okay. It was cool. It was all love. She saw me post a picture of this girl on my Instagram, on my story. And she swore up and down that me and this girl were fucking with each other. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought that happened a year ago. And that's why y'all stopped fucking.

4242.318 - 4254.448 Rory

I didn't know that's why she texted you that at that moment. No, she... No, yeah. A year ago, I posted that picture. And then all of that happened, and she swore up and down me and this girl. I was like, yo, what's wrong with you? You okay? Like, this is my homie.

4254.468 - 4257.112 Unknown

So you haven't spoken to her since, and then she randomly texts you.

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