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Episode 338 | Failed Fathers

21 Jan 2025

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Chapter 1: What themes are introduced in the early part of the episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. It's financial literacy month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.

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There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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38.894 - 42.618 Daniel Alarcon

I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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42.958 - 48.023 John Green

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

Chapter 2: How does Rory's 'Unc' status affect the conversation?

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Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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70.788 - 71.449 Miles Turner

I'm Miles Turner.

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71.669 - 72.59 Brianna Stewart

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

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And our podcast, Game Recognize Game, has never been done before.

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Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

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Nothing's off limits.

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We talk tanking. I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA.

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We talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this the night before games.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of discussing relationships and family dynamics?

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Do or die, home of the gully, where we let land fly. 2025 on my bully, I know that men lie. We'll be right back. I actually went out for like the first time in God knows how long last night to Hookah Spot. And I scared all the hoes. Per usual. What you was talking about in Hookah Spot, man. All right.

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In my defense, the women came when we were already on a guys getting no pussy rap debate, regular conversation that we always do. I wasn't going to change anything. the convo, because they sat down. How do you still get pulled into those conversations? It's so easy to bait me. He starts them. I do start them, but it is very easy to trigger me.

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Sean was trying to tell me Capital Punishment was better than Volume 2, and I didn't care what pretty girl was in the hooker spot. Why are you looking at me that way? Because I'm just laughing because the fact that you still having like those type of conversations like is funny to me. I mean, I'm not going to go and flirt. And I didn't go there. We were watching the game. I mean, I don't know.

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That's just the conversations I have at this point in my life. No, but I feel like they get worse as you get older and get less pussy. First of all, talking to justice about any New York rap is just not I don't even know why you would do that. Yeah. Number two, Sean is from, you know, an era where nothing from that era is, nothing today can beat anything from that era.

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It was, I felt like I was in the middle of everything because Justice is younger and from Atlanta. Sean is older and loves boom bap shit. Hearing them argue, I felt, I did feel like when your parents are arguing or your friend's parents are arguing, you just sitting there like, all right, should I go home? Because I was kind of in the middle. with both of them.

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But no women had any points to anything that we were talking about whatsoever. How could they? First of all, it's a big game is on number one. So automatically women are not supposed to speak. When it's the playoff time, women can't speak. You know that. To compile that, y'all are talking about capital punishment versus Jay-Z volume two. Where would a woman even interject in that conversation?

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And then once I realized that we were like being those guys and left them out of the conversation, we started talking about, you know, like topics that were happening at the moment. Obviously the inauguration is today while we're recording this, which we'll get to. That gets the women going right there. And boy, did that turn into a... No, that gets the women going.

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You know, usually Damaris has been around me so many times when I'm... With women and like having conversations that I end up blowing. I sat so quiet during that entire conversation. I watched people just scream at each other about politics after the Bills game. Yeah. I just sat there dead quiet. We're all fucking doomed. It's a great time to be outside, man.

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I was also quiet because I was distracted by Victoria Monet's Instagram for most of the weekend, actually, not just yesterday. That's sick. Listen, I want to start by saying I respect Victoria as an artist, her mind, her personality, who she is as a feminine woman. But I could only project misogyny while I was looking at my IG screen. I even felt like a creepy old guy.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of releasing the JFK files?

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Okay. I think we'll get some redacted weird shit, but I don't know. I mean, I think the government's probably banking on just... the stupidity of us as human beings and the masses of America, which they bank on to control this entire country. We have actual proof, not a conspiracy, that they staged an entire act to get us into Vietnam. That's a fact. And they put that out. And there's no outrage.

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People don't care. So I don't know, like the JFK thing. I don't know. Is it really going to affect the country? That's why. So what Damaris is saying, that's why I think it will be released because I don't think people care. I think the files will be released and we will know exactly what happened and how JFK was killed and how Martin Luther King and I think we'll get all of that.

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And it's not going to change nothing. It's not going to change anything. Nothing is going to change. People be fake outraged for four hours on social media. Let TikTok go down tomorrow again and see how many people are talking about the files that came out.

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Chapter 5: How do artists navigate political performances?

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More people are going to be talking about TikTok being banned than MLK files. People are going to blame TikTok being banned on the files being released. People don't care, man. And that's why I laugh anytime it's around election time, inauguration, everybody get all upset. Like everybody want to cancel Nelly and Snoop and Rick Ross now. Cut the shit, yo. You know y'all don't.

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Y'all gonna have y'all asses right there at Nelly's residency in Vegas shaking y'all ass in a couple of months. Cut the shit. I don't know whether I'm... You know, I'm very not at all pro-Donald Trump, but I also don't blame people for wanting to perform for a president's inauguration or the inauguration celebrations. As an artist...

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I wouldn't do it, but I can understand why that's such a huge monumental... They're not performing at the actual inauguration. Yeah. That would be like if you got a gig to host a party during Super Bowl weekend and you look at it like you performed at halftime. You got to walk through? He went to like the Crypto Ball to perform. Yeah, you can turn that down. There's nothing...

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honorable that you could tell your grandparents like yeah i performed at a presidential inauguration you like politics i could do that you did some you hosted some bullshit to a bunch of people that didn't even know the songs you were doing you took a check like can we call it a spade a spade you took a check okay but this is my thing so if it's nelly doesn't always need every check ross don't need every check snoop definitely doesn't need every fucking shit it's not the inauguration it's

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It's not the inauguration.

Chapter 6: What are the consequences of TikTok's temporary ban?

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It's a check for a party for all these white people that's in town to celebrate the inauguration. But you were saying that you could see why an artist, fuck politics, would just want to be involved in something like that. Yeah. This is some bullshit crypto ball that is attached to an administration that all these people didn't support before and said crazy things about.

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You are now, you're check chasing at this point to me. But I don't know if Nelly has ever, has Nelly ever like openly spoke about Trump? Probably not. Snoop went the other way. Snoop used to go crazy on Trump.

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not only was he going crazy on Trump anybody that supported Trump anybody that voted for Trump Snoop had some crazy shit to say I don't know if I could even be mad at Ross now I think about it he did say on Apple of my eye I'm happy Donald Trump became the president because we have to destroy before we whatever the fuck he said great record but that wasn't really a pro Trump thing it was actually we need to destroy the world now that he is a president so we can rebuild it yeah

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That's not check chasing. Come on, man. It is check chasing. Who don't chase check? I'm about to say you throwing dirt on check chasing. Everybody's chasing a check. This one is attached to something that's much more than a check. So is that worth the money? Is what I'm really asking. You said it's what? That check is attached to something that is much more than the money.

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You are now aligning yourself with somebody that most of your community does not fuck with. Is that worth the $30,000 that maybe you got? Yeah, to them. Okay. You never know who the fuck need $30,000. I need $30,000. To them? Yeah, it's worth it. But my thing is- And I know they got more than $30,000. That was shady. But why are people upset, though? Wait, why is that shady?

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Like, why are people upset? It's like, that's the part that I'm just sitting back laughing when I see everybody on social media, you know, trying to cancel Nelly. And it's like, but what are y'all... Y'all are upset. There wasn't nobody. So people were crazy if they were trying to cancel Megan for performing for Kamala or trying to cancel Beyonce for going up there and endorsing Kamala?

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Well, you know that who our... Who their audience is, you know, who the majority of their audience supports. So that's it's different. You're you're black and you're in the entertainment industry. You're you're you're fan base is for liberals. So, yeah, they know who their target audience is. But this is what people fail to forget.

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Trump was a part of very much a part of like a lot of rappers, athletes always fucked with Trump before this whole presidency shit came about. Everybody fucked with Trump. So that's why it's funny now to see people like, nah, we ain't supposed to. I'm like, bro, he was, everybody was fucking with this dude. Literally. He was a staple name in niggas versus bars.

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I stated to Trump, that was just a name that people... Yeah, but so was Diddy. People can change their perception about people. The...

Chapter 7: What are the implications of Joey Badass's recent music release?

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All right. I'm here for Joey doing this. Even though I was even on the side when everyone was calling it cloud chasing. I thought too much West Coast dick licking was really just, you know, an ode to Jay in that entire thing. And everyone on the West Coast was like, this is a direct shot at all of us.

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They may have a point because now that he's just shooting, I'm like, all right, maybe Joey meant something by that shit. So I apologize to the West Coast, but I do like what Joey's doing. I don't care if it's deemed clout chasey. People rapping now. So why can't Joey come out and ask that? I do think that was a genius move because Cole is not going to reply because he can't.

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So now you've set that up. It's going to look like someone's not replying. It was a good move. I mean, Cole could reply. He's not. But that doesn't look... They would kill Cole and be like, all right, you just replied to Joey Badass. I don't think that's a shot, though. I don't think that that's a shot.

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Chapter 8: How do the hosts react to Mac Miller's posthumous album?

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Like, it's a shot, but I don't think it's a... I'm dissing you shot. I think it's just a... You got to take that. It's coming off... His last record that people were saying was a diss to Kendrick or the West Coast or whatever. Too much West Coast dick licking, all that. He's saying, I'm not Cole. I'm not pussy. I'm not deleting the record I just put out. That's exactly what he's saying.

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Yeah, he said he want all the smoke. But like I said, that's not a shot. It's a stray, but I don't think it's a shot. It ain't no stray. He said the nigga name. That's a direct shot.

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What are you talking about?

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But I don't. But OK, I get what you're saying. But the shot is not pow, pow, cold. What's up? It's I'm shooting at the West. I ain't this nigga. Like, that's what it is. I don't think it's a cold. Yeah, that's a shot. Like, I'm not. But that's why I said I think it's a stray. I don't think it's not. It ain't a stray. He got he got he got shot. And again, I admit when I'm wrong.

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I'm backtracking now. Joey was dissing the West Coast. I'm sorry. He was. Oh, for sure. He definitely was. And now he's doubling down on it. And he's also shooting a direct shot at Jermaine Cole. Now, your opinion. Cole can't respond. That's what's fucked up. Because I don't think Cole is to play with right now. I think he's in album mode and in great shape.

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He just put himself in a position where if he replies to Joey Badass, everyone would kill Cole. You can't do that. No selective politicking. You can't do that. No selective politicking. Which I think is fucked up. No, it ain't. It was genius by Joey. I told y'all this was going to happen. He knows Cole will never reply. I told y'all this was going to happen.

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And it's genius because people aren't even going to be like, yo, Cole's such a bigger artist that he wouldn't even do that. Oh, we don't want to hear that. That's a sheisty Brooklyn move that Joey just did. But I told y'all last year, I said, yo, listen, now when these other rappers start coming at Cole. Cole cannot respond because that's going to look a ways.

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You're going to respond to this guy, but not to the guy that you now sort of seem like you're scared of. He was losing sleep behind. No selective politics. That's a sheisty, I live off the two train move. I know Joey. I mean, he's a nice guy. Great smile. Nah, Joey's still from Brooklyn. That was a sheisty scammer move just there that I appreciate and love that he just did that.

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I mean, how do you feel about the freestyle? It was great. I love it. The last two joints Joey's put out have been incredible. Listen, Joey want to rap. Joey want to put out music, man. He got the acting thing going for him. And now he's like, fuck it. I wouldn't really capitalize on this music shit. So he had a time to sit back and watch and see what was going on. Now he's reacting to it.

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