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New Rory & MAL

Episode 389 | Cold Play

18 Jul 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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4.438 - 11.529 Joyner

This financial literacy month, we are talking about the one investment most people ignore, building a business around the life you actually want.

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11.71 - 16.317 Rory

It was just us making happen whatever he said was going to happen, and then it happened.

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16.497 - 23.929 Joyner

On Dos Amigos, entrepreneurs like Amir Kassam and Joe Huff get real about money, taking risks, and why your dream might be the smartest move.

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At the end of my life, what am I really going to care about? And the conclusion I came to is what I did to make the world a better place in whatever way.

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Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

34.979 - 48.214 Damaris

On the CINO Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trejo to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances.

48.554 - 54.941 Damaris

The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more.

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I'm an alcoholic, and without this drug, I'm gonna die.

Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to personal experiences?

436.958 - 455.792 Shane Gillis

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456.273 - 480.168 Shane Gillis

Your taste levels is trash, but at least your data can be unlimited with Boost Mobile. Your taste may be limited, but your data doesn't have to be. And that was an ad they said to read verbatim. Exactly. That was their words, not ours. It's all good, man. Damaris, what's up? What's poppin'? Oh, you look a little distracted. Whenever Baby D jump out like, what happened, man? What's popping?

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Chapter 3: What are the implications of being a side dude?

480.188 - 481.089 Shane Gillis

What's up? What's going on, baby?

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Now you got an aggressive tone and shit.

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482.071 - 499.26 Shane Gillis

How you feeling? You good? I feel amazing. I'm good. All right. I'm just checking in on you. Bamboo earrings, at least two pair. Yeah. You feel me? I see you, Baby D. Giving them 95 vibes. You got Air Maxes on? What you got on your feet? Let me see. New Balance. New Balance. Okay. I'm not mad at that. NBs on your feet. Okay.

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I'm chillin'. Powder blue? Yeah.

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Regular, regular shit rolling out of bed.

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Where you going after work? Where you going though?

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Home. No you ain't.

506.749 - 511.975 Shane Gillis

I promise you I'm home. You was just in Dumbo House. Stand up and show your outfit and let them think you going home with that outfit on.

Chapter 4: How does the discussion about Nicki Minaj unfold?

634.605 - 634.986 Shane Gillis

Spell that.

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M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I.

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638.794 - 641.759 Shane Gillis

Okay. Cool, I got it. Great. Why?

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Family.

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643.944 - 658.581 Shane Gillis

Family. It's always family in Mississippi. And hey, as the whites, I apologize for that. Yo, I see. It's always family Mississippi. Andy Baby D, family union, right? Yeah. They're always there, right?

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What you cooking?

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I never said it was my family. CEO of the Stronger Christian.

665.012 - 685.296 Shane Gillis

You meeting mom and pops? Yo, baby, give it up for Baby D. Meeting the family, Baby D. And meeting them in Mississippi. In Mississippi? Oh, yeah, you going down there to the reunion. What are you wearing? What's the family colors? Yellow? They got the yellow t-shirts? What are you wearing? They ask for your size? Yo, Baby D, bring me a t-shirt.

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Bring me a yellow t-shirt. Yo, that's crazy.

Chapter 5: What are Nicki Minaj's feature requests and responses?

3021.854 - 3041.194 Shane Gillis

If Nicki Minaj reach out to somebody for a feature, nine times out of 10, that feature's coming back. Especially when you're not... At the time, I don't think SZA was as big as she is now. So at that time, I'm sure Nicki probably was like, I just think you dope. Like you not to the level where you could just like not respond or just not send a record back.

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3041.215 - 3057.405 Shane Gillis

Like, oh, if you don't want to do it, just say that. But to not have no back and forth on why the record, why you don't want to do it. I could see Nicki feeling a way like, yo, who is it? Word Shorty just curved my feature request. That's crazy.

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Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to the dynamics of the music industry?

3057.545 - 3076.278 Shane Gillis

Which I didn't even see the bars put this one together because I want to be fair and objective here. I see your point. And she did a Cardi feature. She's on Cardi's first album. So here we go. So I try to get into the brain of Nicki. Even if I don't agree, I'm like, okay, maybe she's looking at it like I've tried to do features with you. You didn't.

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3076.358 - 3087.67 Shane Gillis

But then you did a whole fucking duet with Cardi B, who was my enemy and felt like the entire industry was posing against. But I still think this is corny and weird. I can also think two things are

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I think the SZA Cardi feature came before Nicki requested the SZA feature. I think the Nicki SZA feature was for Nicki's latest album, Pink Friday 2, which was like, what, last year? A year and a half ago? Where the Cardi one was like six years ago.

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3101.3 - 3125.269 Shane Gillis

Yeah, for sure. But also... When Nicki was saying that she doesn't even know SZA's music, and then SZA was like, all right, well, you use my bars on feeling myself with Beyonce. So to me, I feel like there has been talks six, seven years ago of Nicki and SZA working together. I don't think it was just for the last album because they did say it was two different times.

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Chapter 7: What insights are shared about the sports world and comedy?

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So, yes, I think there was a time early that Nicki was maybe not even just a feature, just to work together, which is fine. Like, shit, Rihanna was seeking out SZA as a writer to work together. SZA's a great writer. I can see around that time when Invasion of Privacy was happening, that Nicki would have been like, oh, that girl's dope. She's a great writer. Let's work together.

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3150.629 - 3167.01 Shane Gillis

I can see that happening, not just with the last album. But I don't know. I just... Man, give us some music. Fuck it. Don't tweet. Give us some music. This is the music industry. This is the music business. I want to hear some bars.

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I want to hear some hooks.

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3168.092 - 3181.303 Shane Gillis

We have to pick a side because that's the world we live in now. I think it's fine that Nicki decided to be the villain. Just go for it. Even if I think some of the shit you say is full bullshit, be the villain.

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Chapter 8: How does the conversation conclude with voicemails and personal anecdotes?

3181.703 - 3187.711 Shane Gillis

Say some wild shit that nobody as an A-lister legend that Nicki Minaj is would ever fucking say. But Rory.

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I like it.

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3188.412 - 3208.844 Shane Gillis

Go ahead. Crash the fuck out. Yeah, but we go back to years ago. Crash out. When you were sitting right across from me when that whole Nicki Kardashian started. And I said from the beginning of Nicki's career, she's always showed love to all female MCs. I agree with that. So sometimes you're forced to become the villain. Sometimes when you're too nice... No, I said lean all the way into it.

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3208.864 - 3228.699 Shane Gillis

Yeah, sometimes you push into that villain mode where you start to be like, all right, I can't show love because y'all don't appreciate that. I mean, she, with the last album and the album before that, has... Even done skits in between songs. I'm the fucking bad guy. Nicky has been this for quite some time. And when you're as successful as Nicky, people are going to not like you.

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They're going to fucking feel a way towards your success and you being the top dog. That comes with it, which Nicky is very well aware of. So I think that's just a lot of this. And it's just, you know, fuck it. I got some shit on my mind. I'm going to get it off and I'm going to say how I feel. And that's that. Yeah. I understand it. I get it.

3247.743 - 3261.516 Shane Gillis

I just think there's more credence to crash-outs when you stick to the actual facts rather than some of your feelings. Because, like, no. No, feelings is part of the crash-out. Nah, when the crash-out is starting to allude to... The crash-out don't always got to make sense. And here comes Tovenger...

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When the crash out starts alluding to, oh, it's odd that Wayne got a gun charge when he was beefing with Hov. It's like, all right, I was feeling some of the shit you were saying now, but now you're getting to a whole weird level. Yeah, that's a little like, that's like the National Enquirer on the checkout at the supermarket. You can't read that. That's just like, all right, come on.

3280.43 - 3309.61 Shane Gillis

and that's why I'm saying I think there are some things that Nikki are saying that is very valid this woman has been in the music industry for 20 years and has seen a lot shit that none of us have seen it says ups and downs different labels came up on the come up DVD all the way to being an absolute legend if not the greatest female rapper of all time so yes your crash outs could be very valid absolutely when you start throwing in all this other weirdo shit and Dez and her daughter and all this other nonsense that is just like

3310.096 - 3329.809 Shane Gillis

Now I can't follow you on this crash out. And not because I have any allegiance to them or I'm a Hovenger. You're just saying nonsense in between saying facts. Stick to the fucking facts, Nicky, because that's who you have been this entire time. I think there may have been some weird shady shit with Tidal.

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