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New Rory & MAL

Episode 450 | 2026 GRAMMYS Recap

03 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 3.575 Mal

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.878 - 9.483 Daniel Alarcon

I'm Daniel Alarcón, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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9.783 - 14.69 John Green

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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14.87 - 26.865 Daniel Alarcon

On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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27.031 - 34.645 John Green

Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

36.262 - 59.577 Daniel Jeremiah

I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I am Greg Rosenthal. I know that, Greg. We're teaming up on 40s and Free Agents, the podcast that owns the NFL offseason. This is where teams are built. Free agency, combine, pro days, trades. Every move matters. From my draft boards and mock drafts. To my vaunted top 101 free agents and how rosters come together. Quarterback movement. Surprise signings.

59.677 - 66.96 Daniel Jeremiah

We'll tell you what it means and who really wins. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search 40s and free agents, and listen now.

67.143 - 79.421 Julian Edelman

This is Julian Edelman, host of Games With Names. On our latest episode, we got comedian Blake Anderson from Workaholics and the hilarious This Is Important podcast. Let's go! We did beat them in improv.

79.441 - 96.947 Unknown

You had an improv against the team? Yes, we would pull up their schools, would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of Goldschlager. James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it. For more Games With Names, visit the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: What are the highlights from the Grammy recap?

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He's not underrated. But CB, I think Chris Brown... gets his flowers the moment we have those debates. Sometimes I even think Chris Brown is underrated, which we talked about as far as pop stars go.

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1821.258 - 1821.899 Clifford Taylor IV

Chris Brown?

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1822.32 - 1843.785 Unknown

Chris Brown ain't underrated. They got him right behind Mike. We underrated to Mike? Okay, cool. Because Demaris and myself included, sometimes with his discography compared to other legends, his peers, Chris Brown is a legend. Compared to his peers, People debate his discography is not there. It's more of singles. It's more of that.

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On top of that, everything that happened with his personal life and the Rihanna thing put a stain on everything, which also takes away from it. That's what I'm saying. I think CB doesn't get his flowers the way maybe he would had obviously that not happened. And maybe the discography looked different. Justin never gets brought up. Africa gave him his flowers for sure. Where was he at? Joburg?

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1865.067 - 1875.094 Unknown

Where was he at? I was at MetLife throwing flowers at him. No, I'm with you, but... I'm just saying, uh, Beavs is never brought up in those conversations. I think, I think we take them for granted.

1875.134 - 1880.982 Mal

I think we take Justin Bieber for granted. White people don't take Justin Bieber for granted. So let me, let me clear this up. We're talking about maybe pop stars.

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So of course they'll sell out arena. I'm not saying like, yo, Justin should go do SOB.

1884.888 - 1899.568 Mal

But you're saying in these conversations, and I think you're referring to conversations that black people are having. White people who discuss pop stars are never leaving Justin Bieber out of a conversation. Do you understand that? So like when you say we, you must meet us in his room. Cause that's not like- I'm talking, DM, I'm-

1899.548 - 1920.932 Unknown

Okay, so when you say underrated, say in this room, like not outside of this room. Damaris, what hipster barbershop are white people having pop star debates in? You're saying that the white people, no, Justin gets his flowers. Where are white people debating pop stars? I'd like to go to that room. It'd be me and Jeremy, the only ones talking about it.

Chapter 3: What were the key performances at the Grammys?

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I thought he sounded fine. As opposed to what? Jeans?

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1983.316 - 2006.647 Unknown

uh fucking uh what's the chick that's a girl you keep saying girl you got your titties out what are we talking about keep saying girls this is oh chaperone is what is she they had her whole titties out okay justin can't sit there in his socks in his underwear You know, I just, I'd rather. I thought it was free the nipple. Always, but yeah, but not Biebs nipples though.

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2006.667 - 2022.818 Unknown

Nobody wants to see Biebs nipples. Some people want to see Biebs nipples. Chappers nipples, yes. Biebs, put a fucking shirt on, bro. That's just me though. That's just me. And speaking of outfits, I'll stop my rant in a second so we can get to more fun stuff. I've noticed that I am the old parent at this point.

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2023.259 - 2031.931 Unknown

Anytime people used to be like, yo, get this devil Illuminati shit off our Grammy stages. I've been like, that's art. Y'all just don't understand it. I turned into that person last night.

2032.491 - 2034.754 Mal

He was hating on Lady Gaga so fucking bad.

2034.855 - 2051.932 Unknown

Was that? That wasn't Lady Gaga. Who had all the red and all that? Lady Gaga. Yeah, man. Amar don't need to see this devil shit. That's not. Look at the parent coming out of him. Bro, I'm becoming the person that I used to clown so much. It's like, bro, y'all don't understand art. You have to push the limits.

2052.152 - 2055.395 Edwin Castro

I'm sitting there like, this is ridiculous. Can we get Jesus back in this shit?

2055.415 - 2070.691 Mal

But this is how I know he's gay, right? This is how I know he's gay. You complained about Lady Gaga wearing red and having a mask on, but you not mad at Justin Bieber with his fucking drawers out. It's cool for a martyr to see that.

Chapter 4: What humorous observations are made about Pharrell's outfit?

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I guarantee that your mother put you and your sister in the same clothes. Y'all were twins. You guys wore the same outfits every day probably. I'm just trying to figure out why Pharrell has on the same outfit. Because he produced the whole product. They come in as a clique. Okay.

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3279.406 - 3282.593 Mal

Yo, Malice is just so effortlessly cool.

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3283.484 - 3285.147 Unknown

I thought you was about to take that somewhere else, but I hear you.

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3285.688 - 3293.202 Mal

Like, he's just so effortlessly, like, effortlessly, like, just cool as fuck. Like, you can tell he just don't give a fuck about nothing.

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3293.222 - 3293.803 Unknown

You vibe that?

3294.083 - 3294.604 Mal

Yeah, I love that.

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That's that Tracy Towers. It's that Gun Hill right there.

Chapter 5: What was the significance of SZA's appearance at the Grammys?

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Nothing about that. Love them Virginia boys. I will say, though, we should give as arrogant New Yorkers We should give credit between Pharrell and Eclipse. They are some of the coolest, best dressed people. Virginia got it. There's a lot of cities that y'all dress really fucking bad. Virginia Beach, Norfolk. Y'all are stylish. That's that New York, though.

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3323.899 - 3326.304 Mal

New Yorkers are so fucking biased.

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3326.625 - 3343.205 Unknown

Because, you know, even when niggas leave New York and go to Virginia, they still come back to New York to shop, though. Drug dealers from New York go down to Virginia and then come back up. They go down to Virginia to get some money and then come back to New York to shop. They got to come to New York City to shop, though, for sure. But no, I like their performance.

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3343.305 - 3348.554 Unknown

I thought they were going to do Birds Don't Sing. I really thought they were going to open the Grammys with Birds Don't Sing with John Legend.

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3348.574 - 3356.067 Mal

I thought they was going to do Stir Fry.

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shut the fuck up rest in peace take off man when was the last time you listened to stir fry probably like a couple weeks ago that song is so fucking good that shit is hard no that song is incredible yeah hell yeah yo go listen to culture one and two I understand why Migos is top five greatest rapper of all time no they they run was crazy they run was crazy absolutely they go crazy um I just had some some other notes I fucked with the Ozzy tribute um

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SZA, you looked incredible. I'm not going to say what I said in the chat. No, say it. Or what's on our list right now? Oh, that says SZA's cans.

Chapter 6: How did the hosts react to Cher's presentation at the Grammys?

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SZA had the girls out, man. Oh, okay, okay. SZA's cans. Got it. Jesus Christ. Respectfully. I'm saying this very respectfully. SZA looked incredible. SZA always looks good, though. And congrats to her and Kendrick on Luther. It was super funny that- Bruh. That Cher came up. And I'm sorry, congrats to Luther Vandross as well.

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3416.881 - 3440.408 Mal

that's the greatest that might be one of the greatest fucking like when I was watching it and Cher was talking at first I thought she was like being sarcastic and like a cute cheeky way and I was like nah Cher dead ass right now she don't know what the fuck is going on nor do she care what the fuck is going on and she forgot she forgot that she was supposed to be up there presenting an award she walked off stage they was like oh Cher can you come back and she was like oh

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3440.388 - 3448.322 Mal

Congrats to Luther Vandross. She got so excited. Like she was going to like Luther. Cause she probably know Luther. She thought Luther was going to come up and hug her. I was like, Oh my God.

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If she know Luther and she ain't know Luther has left us a few years ago, we might need to check. And that Luther may have song of the year. Like you didn't hear the Luther record that came out?

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3458.32 - 3474.268 Mal

I think Cher might be like, even when Cher said, oh, thank God about time they gave me this award because like I got good genes, like, but I probably wouldn't have been here that much longer. AKA like, I know I look good, but I'm old as fuck. Like it's about time y'all gave me my lifetime achievement award. I think Cher might be a little on the scene outside. And that's fine.

3474.308 - 3482.307 Mal

She's old enough to be there. But I think that's why she got... She was there when she was younger. I think that's why she got... You know what I'm saying? Like, she thought Luther was still alive and well.

3482.327 - 3505.104 Unknown

That was like when Biden, they asked Biden, what day of the week it was? He said, vanilla. That I don't mind. Just don't put, don't put Joe Biden on a bike. What? Like who in the campaign was like, let's put them on a bike. Um, but also, uh, yo, that nevermind. We'll stay far, far away from that entire thing.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the Epstein files mentioned in the episode?

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Um, what was worse? The Steve Harvey moonlight situation or, or the share thing?

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3512.461 - 3515.51 Mal

Worse? Moonlight was embarrassing.

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Yo, they had the whole crew went up there.

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3517.977 - 3520.163 Mal

For La La Land? That was embarrassing.

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The what?

3521.286 - 3523.753 Mal

Moonlight versus La La Land. Faux pas.

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Jay-Z made a hook out of it on 444.

3527.001 - 3532.172 Mal

Moonlight 1. Moonlight 1. But they called up La La Land.

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Oh, yes, yes. I remember that. They had the whole fucking movie cast. Yeah, that was bad. That was bad. And by the way, the whole crew of La La Land was very gracious about... Yeah. Because that would piss me off

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