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Episode 504 | Akon

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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19.505 - 23.756 Therapy Gecko

You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition for The Office or something?

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23.836 - 29.972 Michael Rapaport

I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

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29.992 - 35.185 Akon

Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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35.435 - 53.433 Therapy Gecko

I am the Therapy Gecko. I am an unlicensed lizard therapist who takes phone calls from real anonymous humans about their problems, such as this. Sometimes I'll have my girlfriend pre-chew spicy food and kind of baby bird it into my mouth. Is that weird?

53.714 - 77.929 Therapy Gecko

This week on Therapy Gecko, we're hearing all real, authentic human stories about anything from relationships to family drama to serendipitous encounters with unexpected people and things. If real people pique your interest, this is the podcast for you. Listen to Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

78.044 - 95.409 Timbo

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports, and giving you the real story behind the headlines.

95.429 - 112.674 Timbo

And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more, follow Timbo Slice Life 12 and the TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

113.135 - 136.134 Michael Rapaport

This is Michael Rapoport, and my podcast, the I Am Rapoport Stereo Podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. If you're looking for strong opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson.

Chapter 2: How do the Knicks' game results impact the discussion?

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Or Wimby. Yeah, Wimby. I'll go with that.

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602.151 - 606.816 Akon

Being that tall and being cute and having dimples is just like, where the fuck did they make you in a fucking lab?

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And a talented artist. He's French, man. French people love to draw.

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That motherfucker is not real. Like... He's not real.

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Yeah.

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I can't wait for us to just win this finals because I do like that Spurs team a lot. And I do want to root for them, just not now. Yeah. I think they're a great team. I can't wait to see their future. They'll have some years to get a ring, but not this year. I like all their guards. If we weren't in the finals, that would be a team I would definitely support.

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But you guys know the results now, which is we're up 3-0. And also, we're sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited. Talk, text, and data. Only people that are going to have service in the garden. That's a fact. Can we legally say that? No.

Chapter 3: What controversies arise from the 2004 XXL sex survey?

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Maul, you seem to get the internet moving over the weekend. Did I? I was talking with Peach. Podcasting and social media has gone completely off the rails. Why? I'm... I can't believe that I'm still surprised at the things that go viral and the reaction that people do have. I shouldn't be shocked anymore, but it still shocks me with certain stuff.

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Conway put out a freestyle where he did not only suggest, he said that he went to a dinner with Hov and Hov told him, Hey, you and Benny should get a piece of Griselda, which did not happen. And then Maul repeated what Conway had already rapped, and it put the internet upside down for some weird reason. I even called Maul to try to make sense of it because I thought maybe I missed something.

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I don't know, man. I don't know anymore. Westside Gunn replied... Everybody wants to go viral so bad. Shit is disgusting. Laugh emoji. This podcast has always been a huge West Side Gun supporter. I fuck with Wes. I just don't really. He knows Maul. And Maul was the first person in media to even talk about Griselda. Not only for Wes, but when they launched Benny's career, Maul was the first one.

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Conway, Maul was the first one. I think the biggest supporter of Griselda in media history would be Maul. So for Wes to even think that Maul would just try to go viral and disgusting, I thought was a little off-putting. And I know Wes. I wouldn't say like we're friends per se, but I've known Wes for a long time. We've had a lot of conversations. I think Wes is a good dude. Yeah.

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And I'm always here to support Wes. I just found that odd because he knows who you are. for the last decade and how much support you've given that whole crew. What's disgusting about breaking down the bars that Conway set? I don't know, man. I don't know anymore. But I mean, everybody in this room that knows me, y'all know. When you say viral, I don't even know what goes viral.

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Y'all call me and tell me when shit is going viral. So me trying to go viral or wanting to go viral, that's not in my thoughts at all. Now, we say shit sometimes and we're like, okay, yeah, people might enjoy that conversation, but... To say that everybody want to go viral, talking about me wanting to go viral, like, come on, man.

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Like, I think people that know me, well, I know that people that know me know better than that. I'm never trying to go viral. Like, but, I mean, I get it. I understand Wes felt a way about the clip. I was just going through bars just like we go through anybody else's bars when they say certain things that might perk our ears up. Like, who was he talking to?

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I mean, we spent the last two and a half years combing through every fucking freestyle and record and all kinds of shit. So, you know, naturally, if my guy Conway puts out something and he's speaking about certain things, we're going to talk about it. So, you know, I can understand, you know, Wes feeling some type of way about, you know, talking about it or breaking it down, but...

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And you added context to something everyone else was talking about, especially Griselda fans. And it's information that you've known and never said until they said it. So it's like, it's not like they didn't say anything. They just came out and said some shit. Like, you've known shit and never said it because they didn't say it. That was the thing. That was the only issue I had with that.

Chapter 4: What insights does Akon share about tour life with Ne-Yo?

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I mean, that's pretty normal. If I call you, you don't answer. But now I'll text and be like, yo, I called just in case you don't. You know what I'm saying? And if you don't call me back, like, before the night is over, I'm going to text. I might not call you. I'm going to text like, yo, you all right? Because at that point, it's like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just making sure you're good.

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It's not... Like, calling a woman back to back is not crazy, right? If it's a girl you deal with like that? No, I think that you can call if she don't answer the text. Then if she don't answer the text or the call, then I think you just start to get a little concerned after a while. Like, yo, you good? Like... But yeah, there's nothing wrong with calling a girl twice. Yeah, I call.

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Because if I'm calling you, it's the reason I'm calling you. Like, I enjoy speaking to you. But if you don't answer my call and don't answer the text, then now I'm concerned about it. Just make sure you're good.

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2933.503 - 2938.429 Akon

What if you FaceTime her and she call you back, like, regular? Like, you FaceTime her and she don't answer.

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Oh, women have done that. No, they've done that. They're like, yo, I look crazy right now. I'm bonnet on. I got my mask on, my collagen mask on, this, that, and the third. Like... That's cool. I didn't need to FaceTime you, but to me, that's a cooler way of having a conversation with somebody. XXL asks, there's no better love than dot, dot, dot.

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TI says, excuse me, I thought this was a sex issue, not the Valentine's Day issue. What does love have to do with that? There's no better love than a threesome. That's more like it. Corrupt says, there's no better love than Megan Gooden. Wayne says my love, nasty love. I hear that shit. Proof said head on a boat. He brings up a good point.

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T.I. saying ain't no better love than a threesome after what they was saying him and Tiny was fucking all of Atlanta. That shit, check out, boy.

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You gotta go back and visit the archive. Banks just said money in head.

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listen man get right to it i can't read that font but yeah no this whole article was fucking hilarious this was july 2004 double xl magazine let's see if we can order a copy of that they still do that right no you can't buy magazines not from 22 years ago i don't think so you can do a newspaper collector yeah you have to find a collector

Chapter 5: How does Akon view the impact of AI on music creation?

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Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia.

3173.273 - 3192.16 Timbo

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source.

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the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear, the laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight reel. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

3210.524 - 3224.463 Timbo

Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more, follow Timbo Slice Life 12 and the TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

3224.964 - 3243.915 Therapy Gecko

I am the therapy gecko. I am an unlicensed lizard therapist who takes phone calls from real anonymous humans about their problems, such as this. Or this.

Chapter 6: What are Akon's thoughts on the current state of R&B music?

3274.894 - 3286.036 Therapy Gecko

If real people pique your interest, listen to Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Alec Baldwin.

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3286.056 - 3307.636 Alec Baldwin

This season on my podcast, here's the thing I'm speaking with more artists, policymakers, and performers like composer Mark Shaman. Once you've established that you have the talent, it's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang. We would sit in kibbutz for hours and then eventually get around to the music.

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3307.877 - 3313.542 Alec Baldwin

That's what I mostly think of when I think of him. The time together, laughing. Lawyer Robbie Kaplan...

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The great gift of being a lawyer is the ability to actually change things in our society in a way that very few people can. I mean, you can really make a difference to causes in the United States if you bring the right case at the right time. Marriage equality. Yeah, Windsor's the perfect example. Director Morgan Neville. Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary.

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What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

3341.463 - 3348.473 Michael Rapaport

Listen to Here's the Thing on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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June is Black Music Month, and on the Drink Champs podcast, we're speaking with the hottest names in the culture, like Swae Lee. Do you realize how legendary you are? I appreciate that. I be seeing it, but I'm like, man, I still got, like, so much more to do. Like, Prince, he dropped, like, 30 albums. We dropped, like, five right now. Like, that's the rate we gotta be going.

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Yep, that's a good attitude. You'll also hear stories from industry legends and hip-hop pioneers, like Fab Five Freddy.

3374.577 - 3395.434 Alec Baldwin

I directed one of Nas' early videos. Which one? One Love. Wow. I literally filmed in his apartment in Queensbridge. His mom's was still up in that apartment. Nas was just beginning to take off. His pops used to live near me in Harlem. His dad introduced him to a whole lot of, you know, conscious stuff, and he made a young prodigy.

Chapter 7: How does Akon reflect on Michael Jackson's legacy?

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That's what's up. People don't talk about that part enough, though. The label part. We've had a lot of... artists slash execs on the show. And we have a lot of, you know, debates about sub labels with death row, bad boy, this and that. Right. Why do you think convict doesn't get brought up the way it should between you having T-Pain, Lady Gaga, Red Cafe, you had Wizkid early.

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Convict should be, in my opinion, in that conversation as far as a sub label. Cardinal official, like, why do you think that it's not brought up the way it should be brought up? I guess it would depend on the context in which they're bringing it up, you know? When I created Convict, it was more of an outlet. Okay. You know what I mean?

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The opportunity that was given to people that didn't have the access to the game, right? You give them the open door because Convict was open for everybody. Yeah. There's mad artists now that are convict artists that I don't brand as convict because it helps to keep their brand because they're built to be in a position where they can be a franchise of their own. You know what I mean?

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Oftentimes when you hug something over an artist, when you hug them to the point where the brand... It's so strong, it's hard for them to break off to do their own thing. You know, certain people represent the brand from a perspective of that brand being able to kind of, you know, peel off to create other opportunities, right?

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So when we did Convict, originally it needed to be exactly what it was, but it also was a freestanding brand for anybody to be able to associate themselves with it without me shutting it down. Because it was at one point, I'm sure you probably knew everybody was claiming convict. And you was like, well, who's convict? Who ain't? Yeah.

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I mean, I felt like at one point you're almost producer tag with convict music at the top of every record. Right, right. You know what I mean? So when did that shift, do you think, happen with your mind state of not adding that to everything? No, I kind of realized, well, I understood the art of branding and I knew that everybody just couldn't be branded convict. Something's got to be off of it.

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Like even with Lady Gaga, she was never branded convict. Like nobody knew I was a part of that until it was way to the point where it was too late to stop it. You know what I'm saying? As a nerd, I didn't know until way later. Had I branded her convict, she wouldn't have got that big. Why do you feel that way though? It just, it's like, she's a pop artist and a white pop artist. Right.

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Convict was so urban. Okay. And it was so street at that time. Yeah. To try to push that, like, problem's out, but Kobe O'Donnell, it's the same thing. Yeah. I didn't brand him Convict. He just, like, people ain't even know. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's certain things that I just felt like wasn't, like Convict wouldn't have helped it.

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It would actually would have held it down a little bit. Yeah, but not a lot of executives think like that though. They don't have that wherewithal to be like, yo, let's not put the brand on this artist so heavy because it might stifle their trajectory and people might not understand it. So to have that sense and have that discernment of like, yo, let's not push that on artists.

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