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Offset talks "KIARI" & Migos Winning EVERY Verzuz

08 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Chapter 2: What stunt did Offset pull off in Times Square?

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Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

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Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong.

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All right, Rory, today we are back, back joined by another friend of the show, somebody that we probably even talked about the last 15 years of our lives, I guess, something like that. It's been that long? Probably. Well, I feel like we've been podcasting for like 20 years. At this point. Yeah. A gentleman that we've been talking about, stable in the culture, one third of the most iconic, most...

Chapter 3: How did Offset select his doppelgängers for the stunt?

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Or you make your album like, if I get inspired tonight, I'm going to the studio right now. Kind of both. If I get inspired, I'm going to the studio. But when it's album time, it's like a different mode.

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I'm trying to see what the fuck the story is in this project. What picture I'm painting with this? What are they going to get from this? So then they get to breaking down the songs and saying, that's how I narrate, picking my songs and shit. Because if it ain't matching a story of me being me, myself raw, kind of like not...

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I don't want to say vulnerable, but it ain't sad shit, but it's like sad shit I would never say on this project. Have you done that often? And then the record comes out and you hear it and you're like, I hate that I said that because you don't really feel that way. How often does that happen for you? It happens not all the time, but... A recent drop, I did that.

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When I dropped that record, 10, I just like, I sent it down. I didn't really fuck with the record like that. It was more of me not being a player and kind of being spiteful. Spiteful records don't work. Or shit like that. Spiteful records don't work. How quickly after the release did you feel that way? Of like, damn, maybe I shouldn't have done this? Probably like two days. Damn.

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So it was like immediate. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not even off what people saying though. It's just like... You didn't really feel that. That's not what you really felt. I was trying to... No, not that. But it was... It just wasn't... It wasn't a play. Yeah. It was no story to that shit. It was no like... music drive to that. The fans wouldn't, that wasn't, it was just me doing some shit.

Chapter 4: What was the vibe like during Offset's recent collaborations?

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I can say that. I was just doing some shit. Trying some shit. What's one of the biggest things you want people to take from Offset as far as like a rapper? Because from years, you know, all of the records with Migos, like, you know, the joints that y'all gave us, we always kind of recognized that

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it's been a conversation like Offset really be saying some shit, like y'all having fun, y'all styling and y'all getting y'all fly shit off. But it's like, when we listen to Offset, it's like, hold up, he kind of like, he seemed like he just be in a different part of the room, like really trying to get some shit off. As a solo artist now, you have more space to kind of be Offset, obviously.

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What's one of the things you want people to take from this project in particular? about you as a rapper, as about you as a writer and an artist that people probably don't know about Offset? My craft, like, to take it serious, like, the hours I be putting in, And like, I break so much shit down in detail, even like the sequence of my songs and like the art inside of the music too.

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Like, I like to paint the picture because I feel like people don't get shit sometimes. So you got to put it in their face and this shit, they go behind that. Like last album, I had Jamie Lee Curtis doing shit. Like me reaching out myself personally, a DM to this also. That's a flex. Getting Jamie Lee Curtis is a flex. Yeah. I'm on now. I'm working on some other shit now.

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Yeah, yeah. You feel that? Working on some other shit now.

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That's a flex, yeah. The shit that, the behind the scenes work, niggas never see what niggas got to do to try to please you. Right. To please y'all. You feel what I'm saying? Right. Because I study the game. That's why I don't drop so much because I got to see what the fuck going on because I feel like, like you said, I come from such a heavy background. I can't, it's no hiccups.

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Niggas can't drop no bullshit. Right. You ain't going to be able to come back from that. It'd be too hard to come back from that. So sometimes I strategize and see what the folks feel. Yeah, you don't have the luxury of dropping because you're under a microscope that's so big. They waiting for you to drop some bullshit. Yeah, they waiting. So they can't do that.

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You know how many, when I drop bottles, how many TikToks? I'm like, I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to be, but I can't say. Yeah. I mean, as a spokesperson for all of the whites, we did feel seen when you sampled bodies hit the floor. Like I really was like, yo.

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Yeah. You were thinking about me?

Chapter 5: Why do people perceive Offset as serious?

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Yeah. Me and Peej was that morning that shit came out. We was jamming in the studio. Yeah. That's our shit. That's the white boy shit. Was that intentional, picking that sample? Nah, honestly, Vinyl, shout out to Vinyl. Shout out to Vinyl, man. He's cold. He's so cold. Vinyl's my man. If he made it with him, Vinyl sent it to me. I sent it to Vinyl. I made their record two years ago. Oh, shit.

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Okay. So when I made the record, he'd been pressing me for that shit for two years. Like, what the fuck is you doing, brother? You know, the sample we got alone is one of them ones. And niggas don't get this sample. And then... Shout out to Reservoir, my publisher. They on the same team. They on Reservoir too. And shout out to them, man. They was easy to work with. Cleared it.

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They fucked with the record.

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Chapter 6: How does Offset handle rumors and public perception?

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I hit them on the DM2. Yo, trying to get this record cleared, man. Made that shit immediately. Yeah, shout out to them, bro. Now, we was listening to the joint. We'll go ahead. Yeah, we listened to the joint last night. I told you, The Love You Down, that's my shit. Yeah. I mean, that sample is, you know, that's the 80s. That's my era. That's going back.

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But that, to me, is one of the records that I think everybody's going to fuck with. I think every woman on social media is going to post that song at least once on their algorithm. When you heard that, was that a no brainer? Like, oh, we definitely- I can show the text. I seen it. I'm scrolling on Instagram and I seen the original. Yeah. Being live performed. Yeah.

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I sent it to London on the train. Like, as like, share this link, share this to them. I said, sample this, put this in the front. I got it. I got all the text. Yeah. Put this in the front. Yeah.

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954.802 - 972.979 Rory

and don't muffle it don't put it in the background make this stand out off rip so start the song off like this then put let me love you down throughout the record literally got the text how I did it cause he sent it back the first time I was like nah turn that shit up cause this the part my mama my grandma my auntie everybody know this part right and so put this right here and then

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Then when I played it out, I first did a verse, and I just stopped, and I just had the beat, so I stopped, and I called him back, like, hey, put that same shit in the middle of this motherfucker, let it breathe, and then I'm going to come back in with a different flow. And that's how I did it. That's called producing, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if people out there know what that is.

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He's not just texting, you know what I'm saying, saying dumps. He's producing a record at that point. It was good to see you with T-Zo. How did that record come together? T-Zo Touchdown. T-Zo Touchdown. He always was- Incredibly talented. He's a superstar to me. Yeah. And he got that old school edge with it. It makes sense that you and T-Zo would- Yes. Connect though. And he would take it there.

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So like video- Anything he, I feel like he ain't got no fear with his shit. His creator's book so open, he'll go anywhere. Like anywhere with it. And I respect his vocal game. Like his sound is different. It sound older to me. It sound like some older shit to me. But it sound different.

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And the whole purpose of my album, I wanted to work with niggas that, I feel like niggas getting recycled right now. Like same song, same niggas, same features, same features. And I wanted to go different route. Like, cause I feel like collaboration probably be like, you deal with somebody that, you work with somebody that's unexpected, like the Jed. Jed, that nigga gonna walk something.

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Just had to find a pocket and we found a pocket and it go crazy. And then like the low key niggas like that be having their own, Fan base, too. Solid fan base. Oh, yeah. Jig got a core fan base. And it's crazy. It just shows the versatility of Atlanta. Because that record still sound Atlanta. And y'all are two totally different rappers in that regard. But nothing weird on that shit at all.

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