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By-Electioncast: Everything You Need To Know About Makerfield

22 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the Makerfield by-election?

0.031 - 3.713 Luke Tryl

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Some news has actually happened since we recorded the first episode on Thursday afternoon. The Green Party has said that its former Makerfield bi-election candidate has apologised for sharing social media posts which described an attack on ambulances run by a Jewish charity in North London as a false flag.

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Chris Kennedy had been announced as the party's candidate on Thursday, but withdrew just a couple of hours after that announcement with the Greens citing personal and family reasons. So we will be recording these episodes every Friday for the next three weeks.

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But here is a primer, which we recorded on Thursday afternoon, about why this election is so important and some of the themes and some facts about Makerfield, the constituency, as a place. And if we're launching a new series, then that means we need to launch some new trademark issues. Newscast, in this case by-election cast, opening titles. Newscast.

120.784 - 122.387 Adam Fleming

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122.487 - 131.54 Unknown

The political circus is coming to town. Makerfield has been given one heck of a responsibility. We're in this sort of holding pattern until that by-election.

Chapter 2: Who are the main candidates in the Makerfield by-election?

518.931 - 538.064 Luke Tryl

There are some very deprived areas. And actually, some of those deprived areas have a history of voting problems. not electing, but significantly high numbers voting for UKIP, for the BNP as well. So, you know, the sort of radical or far right has done well in parts of the constituency before. Other bits where independents have actually done quite well throughout the period.

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538.084 - 545.995 Luke Tryl

So the idea of it as a Labour monolith can be overstated, but certainly, you know, at a parliamentary level, They've held that seat since its creation.

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546.396 - 561.904 Unknown

And Luke, you were talking about the so-called red wall and the 2019 election and Boris Johnson capitalising on Lee votes around the country, but not here. What's a way of thinking about the Brexit legacy in Makerfield?

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561.884 - 587.888 Luke Tryl

Well, it's interesting. I mean, if you look at the local elections, there was a really clear correlation still between the reform vote and the leave vote in the referendum. And that bodes very well for reform in this by-election because Makefield is a constituency where two thirds voted to leave. Now, That's not to say that Brexit is particularly salient at the moment.

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588.208 - 589.61 Luke Tryl

It doesn't come up in focus groups.

589.63 - 592.134 Unknown

Well, it comes up in our politics a lot more than it used to.

592.214 - 615.386 Luke Tryl

But it's way down the list. But it's more about, I think, what Brexit stood for beyond the EU. That sense of places like the Makefield seat, places like Ashton Makefield in the constituency feeling overlooked, right? And I think the danger of reopening the Brexit debate is less about Europe in of itself and more people start to go, oh, did they not learn their lesson from that at all?

615.426 - 620.392 Luke Tryl

Are we going back to a time when places like Makerfield or Wigan Council get overlooked?

620.832 - 633.927 Unknown

And Kevin, just going back to the geography, Makerfield or parts of Makerfield are considered to be parts of Greater Manchester when it comes to, I don't know, voting for a Greater Manchester mayor, for example. But this isn't really part of Manchester, is it?

Chapter 3: What are the historical voting trends in Makerfield?

1373.234 - 1393.842 Kevin Fitzpatrick

It is, yeah. And I think they've learned a lot of lessons from the Gorton and Denton by-election more generally. And there, really, this is back in mid-January, wasn't it? That was a standing start for the party. They just had one councillor in the Tameside area, none in Manchester. Those two boroughs kind of make up the constituency. And they didn't really have a team to get off the back of.

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1393.822 - 1415.361 Kevin Fitzpatrick

Whereas here in Wigan, they've just had 24 councillors elected after having none before the local elections. So that's a huge team. At the first weekend, this weekend just gone, they were able to have a whole load of activists out and about. Two buses came down and they've got a load of press officers as well, which hasn't always been the situation.

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1415.401 - 1423.828 Kevin Fitzpatrick

So suddenly it does seem that they are a much more slicker operation and they will be throwing absolutely everything at this by-election campaign.

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1423.808 - 1434.308 Unknown

Have we checked the review websites to see if he's a good plumber? I wouldn't name any of them because there are many tradespeople review websites.

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1434.71 - 1446.172 Kevin Fitzpatrick

We haven't, no. But if he does have jobs booked in, which you'd think a decent plumber would, then he does win. People will be disappointed. And that was the first thing Hannah Spencer announced, wasn't it, when she won, that she was going to have to let a load of customers down.

1446.853 - 1455.469 Unknown

Right. Let's talk about the Conservative candidate. He's Michael Winstanley, former mayor of Wigan. And so, Kevin, what's his backstory?

1455.449 - 1476.107 Kevin Fitzpatrick

Yeah, he's been a councillor in Wigan for many, many years. This has been one of those boroughs where it's been an absolute Labour stronghold, but there's always been some true blue, real traditional Conservative voices. And he's been one of them in Wigan for many decades. You mentioned, you know, the Brexit election when...

1476.087 - 1493.452 Kevin Fitzpatrick

The Conservatives swept to victory across the north of England and they ended up getting all these MPs, suddenly eight MPs in Greater Manchester when they'd only ever really had them in the leafy areas of Cheshire and the more wealthy Altrincham. We ended up with one in Leigh just up the road from this constituency.

1493.472 - 1512.765 Kevin Fitzpatrick

But even then, the councillors, they didn't really have much impact on the council, the Conservatives, but Michael Winstanley, he's been there, so he'll know this constituency inside out, He's not a fan of Andy Burnham, I can tell you that. He's been critical publicly of him quite a lot over the years. And I'm sure he'll be relishing this opportunity to take him and to take reform on.

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