Charlie Kirk: A Special Friend & Generational Inspiration
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Why does Mark Halperin consider Charlie Kirk’s legacy important for his children and future generations?
Everybody, welcome to a special edition of Next Up. Uh I'm Mark Cowpert. Thank you for being here. I'm editor-in-chief of Live Interactive Video Platform Two-way, the host to your guide to everything. Next up. Happy to have you here. Special program uh marking one year since the murder of Charlie Kirk. And uh we're gonna spend the hour talking about him. uh and about his life and a celebration of his life uh for a variety of reasons. Tucker Carlson, good friend with Charlie, will be here. The executive producer of this program, Brian Solomon, who knew Charlie well also, will talk about their reflections on this uh uh this extraordinary year. painful and and uh difficult year for so many. Um Before they're here though, I want to tell you a little bit about why it's so important to me uh to commemorate Charlie's life.
Um A lot of reasons. First of all, uh and maybe foremost is I want to make sure I can do everything I can do, my small part I can play, in making sure his kids know uh how he was thought of by those who understood him. Second is um Uh it's amazing to me still how misunderstood Charlie's legacy and work was uh is uh amongst people on the left. Uh I can I I I remember with such resonance how many people on the left after Charlie was murdered, uh, who said they'd never heard of him, or in some cases the only impression they had of him was that he was a right wing extremist, or phrases like that. А this is a complicated and extraordinary person. And I think it's important to put his life in context as best we can, not just now, but uh forevermore.
Um, he touched so many people. I know I know uh I did I my relationship with Charlie primarily consisted of texting and uh hit my going on his program. uh and his coming on my programs uh both here next up and on two way. And um I know so many of his closest friends, uh, because so many of his closest friends are people who I cover as part of the the president's uh Team Trump and and and MAGA. And um And I've met so many people, including at his memorial service shortly after he was killed in Arizona, who knew him somewhat. I met some of his neighbors. I met young people who'd met him once or twice and Uh, he touched so many people. Um, and it's important, I think, to understand what he was about. And he was so multidimensional in what he was as an intellectual, as a thinker, as a as a as a uh husband, as a father, as a son, uh, as an organizer, political organizer, as a member of text chains, with people like his friend J.D.
Vance and others, uh, who really saw uh uh burned with the desire to make America better. So I'm going to talk a little bit about and show you some clips from from my conversations with him, just to try to tell you a little bit about how I think about him. uh and what was extraordinary about him that I experienced. And as I said, he he was kind enough to invite me on his show on a regular basis. Uh and um he appreciated two way and he appreciated uh something that I appreciate when people appreciate, which is that I'm I'm an old fashioned reporter. I'm not I'm not a partisan. I'm not as so many people in the legacy media are where I where I grew up professionally. I'm not a liberal. Uh I don't favor liberals, I support the American people.
And uh always enjoyed going on his program and and uh and I would call him out at times because Charlie was uh such a master at Public presentation. uh and understood uh uh as you approach election day for instance, you need to both encourage folks to turn out because they want to be on the bandwagon with the winner, but also remind them that they could lose. Uh and uh and playing that game of expectation is just extraordinary. Um Uh Charlie came on two way and and uh and as I said onto this program and he talked about um uh including answering questions from the two-way community. But we talked a lot about uh my view of what made him different, of what uh separated him from others. And uh one of the points I've made to him, uh both pi privately and on the show, is that had he been a Democrat, had he been doing for Barack Obama as a Democrat what he did for Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why does Mark Halperin consider Charlie Kirk’s legacy important for his children and future generations?
0:02–13:56
2
How did Charlie Kirk’s work with Turnpoint and the Trump movement differ from typical political activism?
13:56–26:03
3
What personal anecdotes does Brian Solomon share about Charlie Kirk’s friendships and daily life?
26:03–33:14
4
How does Tucker Carlson describe Charlie Kirk’s influence on American politics and culture?
33:14–42:01
5
What were Charlie Kirk’s unfulfilled professional ambitions and how might they have shaped his future?
42:01–51:26
6
Why does Mark Halperin argue that Charlie Kirk was not a ‘hater’ despite media portrayals?
51:26–1:00:17
7
What lessons does the panel suggest for honoring Charlie Kirk’s memory and continuing his work?
1:00:17–1:02:18
8
How can future content (documentary, book, interviews) best capture Charlie Kirk’s story for new audiences?
1:02:18–1:03:38