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Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Broderick Jones Suffers Setback, McCarthy on Steelers Draft, Ty Simpson Turns Down $6.5Mil
21 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What setback did Broderick Jones face in his rehab?
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Chapter 3: What are Mike McCarthy's thoughts on the Steelers' draft needs?
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Chapter 4: How is Aaron Rodgers impacting the Steelers' draft strategy?
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Chapter 5: Why did Ty Simpson turn down a $6.5 million transfer offer?
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Chapter 6: What insights do Deebo and Joe share about the NFL draft process?
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Joe. Yes, sir. What in the fiddle faddle is going on here? Yeah. I'm just feeling... This is our show before the draft, and I'm just feeling like... You know what I'm saying?
Chapter 7: How do injuries affect a player's draft stock and future?
I'm just feeling real... Feeling real draft-like. I'm feeling like real NFL ready. I'm having flashbacks of when I got drafted. When I walked across that stage. When I had that feeling. You know what I'm saying? So I just was in the mood. I felt like I needed to throw my gear on. Game jersey.
Chapter 8: What are the financial implications of being drafted versus staying in college?
It took two to put this one on. You know what I'm saying? It took two to put that on. Got my sleeve on. You know what I'm saying? Game ready. Wow. I was going to ask you about how was your draft day experience? How'd you how'd you feel in the draft? You want to know how I felt in the draft? Yep. You know, I felt I felt I didn't even know it was a draft. You know what I'm saying?
I don't I don't know what that I don't know what that feels like to to get drafted, Joe. You know, honestly, I think I think. I don't know what I was doing that day. I couldn't even remember, to be honest with you. You know what I'm saying? Because it wasn't of, you know, great importance to me, I guess.
It was more important about, you know, what happened once I got there and, you know, and the goal of being, you know, part of an NFL football team is to win. So when did they end up reaching out to you? Did your agent tell you that, you know what I'm saying? I was a package jail, Joe. Okay. Who'd you go with? I don't even know who it was. They just needed an extra body. You know what I'm saying?
Okay. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't get all, you know, I didn't get all the stuff that you got. You know what I'm saying? That's cool though. That's cool. We ended up in the same place and that's why I don't matter how you get there. But I want you to do something for me. Get rid of all that stuff in the background. Like the distiller stuff over there. No. No, no, no.
Look, it's not the Steelers' fault. They ended up drafting a great player at, what was it, 15 or 16? They drafted Pouncey. They drafted my teammate. You know what I'm saying? Coach Tomlin said if I was there at 16, when they saw me at my pro day, he said, Joe, you're going to be gone too early. I said, okay, Coach, I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying?
At least I know you know if I was there, you would take me. Boy, listen, y'all, listen. This man started showing his true colors. You see what I'm saying? I'm showing my true colors because this is who drafted me in the NFL. Gave me my first opportunity. What happened when they cut you? Let you go. Said you ain't worth it. They said you can't even help us lose no more.
That's when I went right here to the good old Steelers. Coach Tomlin, yes. You, Ben, AB, Le'Veon, my good man, Cam Hayward, Tyson, like just love there. So I came, you know what I'm saying, to a great organization and I enjoyed my time there. And that's why I love Pittsburgh. That's why I love it still. That's why I'm going to be there for the draft. You know what I'm saying?
You here for the draft doing what? Look, see, that's what happens. I got, like I said, I got drafted. Hey, you need to cover your face coming into Pittsburgh and then doing what you going to do. What you doing? I'm going to announce the second round draft pick. For who? For the Cleveland Browns. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to go out there and announce the draft pick. In Pittsburgh.
Disrespect. See, it's not, no, it's not disrespect. Chat. Boy, I hear disrespecting. I know they're going to look. Look, I told my parents and they said, I know they're going to boo you. I said, God, I know it. I know it. I'm ready. I'm ready. But it's no, it's no, it's all love. It's all love. Hey, listen, listen, the best, the best thing for you to do is what?
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