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Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Mike Tomlin Breaks Silence + Rams Draft Ty Simpson

27 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of the Rams drafting Ty Simpson?

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4.638 - 20.56 James "Deebo" Harrison

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21.001 - 39.538 James "Deebo" Harrison

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41.37 - 42.933 James "Deebo" Harrison

1979, that was a big moment for me.

Chapter 2: How did Mike Tomlin address his resignation from the Steelers?

43.113 - 44.135 James "Deebo" Harrison

84 was big to me.

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58.281 - 63.13 James "Deebo" Harrison

It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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69.882 - 84.561 James "Deebo" Harrison

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Chapter 3: What reactions did Deebo and Joe have about the Rams' draft strategy?

84.681 - 100.296 James "Deebo" Harrison

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100.977 - 108.103 Stephanie Young

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108.123 - 111.486 Joe Haden

You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?

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111.667 - 120.321 Stephanie Young

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Greg Gillespie and Michael Mancini.

122.584 - 123.485 Stephanie Young

My mind was blown.

Chapter 4: What are the challenges of being a rookie quarterback in the NFL?

123.546 - 126.73 Stephanie Young

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127.071 - 128.854 Laura Owens

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128.874 - 138.949 Stephanie Young

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139.925 - 163.683 Michael Easter

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164.344 - 170.751 Michael Easter

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173.995 - 186.79 James "Deebo" Harrison

Can I tell you, can I say something funny, though? Just off the top of, did you see the draft when they drafted Ty Simpson to the Rams and how McVay was not happy with it? Listen, bro.

Chapter 5: How did the Steelers' recent decisions impact their future?

188.111 - 216.686 James "Deebo" Harrison

Listen. They can say what they want to on that one, brother. I don't know. I don't understand that one unless they thinking like... How long do you think Stafford got left? I think that's the thing. I think it's the – I feel like it's more like the Bill Belichick, Tom Brady thing where if you start – if you bring in the – but this one, I think the coach is believing in Matthew Stafford.

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216.806 - 234.229 James "Deebo" Harrison

I'm not bringing in – I think we got a team where at this 13th pick, you need to bring somebody else that can help us just get over the top. Yeah. Not nobody's going to be sitting behind my Hall of Fame quarterback that I love, that I'm trying to go win some Super Bowls with. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's where the GM is. Bump what you're talking about.

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234.389 - 240.938 James "Deebo" Harrison

I'm going to think for the long term that he might not be here too much longer. And Sean McVay's like this, you idiot.

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Chapter 6: What insights did Mike Tomlin share about leadership?

241.118 - 256.113 James "Deebo" Harrison

Like, no. My thing is, I think it's more of a, you look at it, you look at the quarterback draft. Okay? Yes. Not a strong quarterback draft, right? No. You know you're going to have Stafford for at least, what, two, maybe three more years?

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256.133 - 256.553 Joe Haden

I think two.

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256.573 - 270.423 James "Deebo" Harrison

Minimum? At least minimum, minimum. Okay. So why not wait until next year or the year after to go grab something in the first round versus it being this? I think that might be why. He was more looking like... which all done did.

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Chapter 7: How do Deebo and Joe view the current state of the NFL?

270.824 - 273.448 James "Deebo" Harrison

It's the position and who it is.

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273.989 - 274.29 Joe Haden

Right.

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275.312 - 299.636 James "Deebo" Harrison

It's the position and the time that you got it with who it is. It's not like you were going through a strong quarterback draft year. Everybody out there who has any type of, well, any analysts right now, most of them, I would say, were like, yo, Shador was better than everybody in this draft, but yet he went five.

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299.877 - 325.956 James "Deebo" Harrison

He went fifth round at the S. And this is what you do in the weakest draft that they're saying they've had since who knows when, is you go and get him? As a coach. Yeah. At 13. No, I think I think I feel like it's both like it's it's quarterback is at 13 is I don't think he's that good. And we could have got him later. Help us out.

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326.036 - 337.45 James "Deebo" Harrison

We got our franchise quarterback still here for the next couple of years. And I just think because McVay, he got so much passion and so much like he's he's he doesn't hide his emotions.

Chapter 8: What questions did fans ask during the Super Chats segment?

337.43 - 358.579 James "Deebo" Harrison

You know what I'm saying? He couldn't. He ain't pull it in fast enough, but he tried to back it up after, though. He couldn't. That wasn't the reaction. Ty got on the phone with him and hit him with the, he was like, yeah, coach, let's go do something great. He was like, man, you know what I'm saying? Enjoy your night. I said, God dang. Let's go make history. What we going to do?

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358.699 - 387.139 James "Deebo" Harrison

You going to be great sitting here watching them for the next two, three years? USA and watch good old Stafford. And I know I could have grabbed something that would have been better next year. Yeah, that was wicked, bro. He couldn't hide it. Hey. Hey. What's good, brother? Hey. I was talking about that boy should have took that six and a half. He just won. He just won. Just won. Deebo.

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387.48 - 410.6 James "Deebo" Harrison

He just won. It only takes one. Hey, but he won for now. He won for now. No question. He definitely won for now. But if he's sitting behind Stafford for the next three, four years, he might have wanted to take that sixth, go back in there and come back out. So he could have probably tried to go one. But no, I don't know. I don't know with Ty. I don't think he would have did it.

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410.7 - 433.958 James "Deebo" Harrison

I'm still going to take the sixth. You still taking the six? I'm still taking the six and a half. He bet on himself and won, man. Did he? Yes. Did he? Brother. Long haul, we're going to see if he really won. Look. The staff, you're still sitting there after three, four years. What are you going to get on that next contract? I'm going to tell you. We're going to figure that out.

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435.71 - 455.939 James "Deebo" Harrison

Because it was in between. The highest player, number one player, is going to get like $52 million, and the lowest player is going to get $13 million. So in between there, he might have just been at, he might be around the 20, 22 area. What's the 13 pick getting right now? Y'all tell us what the 13 pick is right now. Yes, please.

458.002 - 486.926 James "Deebo" Harrison

Something like that, because I think number one was $52 million, and number 32 was like $13 million. Man, that's chat. Chat will tell you. Chat GPT will tell you something. And you got the true protocol set up, though? Because you know it'll lie to you if you don't. No, they will. They will. Let's cut it in half. 24? Yes, on the same.

486.946 - 487.006 Joe Haden

25?

487.026 - 496.071 James "Deebo" Harrison

Maybe 20? Yeah. Guaranteed? 25. What is that? That's four years, though, right? Yeah. That's about the same thing.

496.091 - 497.113 Joe Haden

With a fifth-year option, though.

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