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Chapter 1: How did Kayla Jade become a viral sensation on TikTok?
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You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Hi, No Filter listeners. It's Kate Langbrook here. We're bringing back this conversation with Kayla Jade following the release of her new book, Call Girl Confidential, because when this episode first came out last year, so many of you were completely captivated by Kayla's story. At the time, Kayla was known for her hugely viral TikToks.
But in this interview, she shared so much more than what people had seen online. She opened up about the double life she was living, the reality of working in the sex industry. and the deeply personal experiences she hadn't spoken about publicly before. It's raw, surprising, funny, incredibly revealing and searingly honest.
So if you missed it the first time around, here is my conversation with Kayla Jade. Was Peggy Sue Peter Dutton?
I don't want to get sued, okay?
And yet in a really strange sort of way, I think it played a part in affecting the outcome of an election.
Sorry about that, Peter Dutton.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Kayla face transitioning to the sex work industry?
So I had to basically Google how to make an OnlyFans. And yeah, I just started straight away. I was like, if I'm going to put this stuff out there, I'm going to go all out. And that's what I did. I immediately, I had no social media following. I actually started posting on Reddit and
And that's where I got a lot of... Because I was posting in a lot of subreddits and there's a lot of like kink subreddits. So I was just posting, posting, posting. Like I lived and breathed that for the first like little while. And then I started... I started on Instagram and did a couple collabs and that's like collabing with other girls.
I was like, that's when they were like, oh, you should try TikTok. And I was like, okay, I'll try TikTok. And back then it was sort of when everyone was doing like kind of more dancing skits and stuff. So I was doing like a few random things, but I didn't take it seriously.
It wasn't until I started doing full service work that I just started posting what I was doing and somehow people started watching it. So, yeah.
When you say that you started doing full service work, like how was that transition for you? Like what was the moment where you went, oh, I can value add here?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I guess, like, I had dabbled in it a little bit previously, but not, never to this extent. So with my OnlyFans, you know, I travelled the world, like, collabing with really big names, and I had made, like, a big name for myself in that industry. So I guess I was just kind of in the mindset of, like, okay, what can I do next?
How much, like, how much money can I save in a short amount of time? So that's when I, you know, I had friends throughout the industry that were in-person workers. So I was like learning from them. I was like, okay, maybe I can make morning money from this. I feel like I have the experience now through sex work that it just happened like so naturally.
But I'm so glad that I had that experience in sex work before I got into the in-person work. Because if I just started in-person work, like when I was fresh 18, I probably would have got myself into some really shitty situations. So yeah, it's kind of like just timing everything worked out right. I just really wanted to get my savings up and, you know, invest in some more property.
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Chapter 3: How does Kayla manage her personal life while being a sex worker?
Yeah, yeah. I think it's just made me, because you're just meeting new people all the time and adapting it, like you're processing all these different personalities. You get to really easily find out who someone is just by looking at them. Yeah, it's quite funny. It's like my little superpower now.
Because I heard you say, and I think it was on your Storytime pod, that you probably won't have a relationship now until you finish with sex work. Yes, definitely. And I thought to myself, how can you control that? Do you know what I mean? Like how do you stop that pull to someone when you have that attraction to them or...
Well, I guess I'm just not in the mindset of dating at the moment because throughout my life, I've always been in a relationship from the time I was like 14 years old until up until I had kids. So I feel like I'm just in my era of wanting to make money and setting myself up to make money. And I know that if I get into a relationship, that's going to slow me down.
I guess my mentality now is if like... if I get into a relationship, it's just going to set me back in my career, in my moneymaking. Because obviously, like, I want to be with a person who, you know, is okay with me being a sex worker, but I also want to be with a person who doesn't want me to sleep with other men, you know? So I know that when I do become in a relationship... Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I will have to stop being a sex worker.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And... Because if they are okay with me sleeping with other men, I feel like either they're with me just for my name or money or they really don't care about me. So I want to be with someone who...
only wants you to be with them.
Yeah, yeah.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of Kayla's experiences with mental health?
Like we both have been in a lot of relationships throughout our lives. So we just focus on the kids at the moment, you know.
And also, you know, speaking of being healthy, You've been very open about your BBL surgeries, both of them. Yes. One story is so horrific. It basically is how you nearly died, which I don't know if you realised it at the time, but listening to you tell it, it's like you could have died in Turkey.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I went through everyone's worst nightmare of literally waking up on the operating table and while they're operating on me, not being able to move, being paralyzed, but feeling everything and just being, just feeling the tears run down my face, but not being able to do anything. It was horrific. Yeah.
And every aspect of it, it was botched. You had encountered a nurse that was, he was groping you and trying to kiss you in the lift. They put you on your bum when you're not supposed to be on your bum straight after.
Yes, yes. So it was a time where I didn't have, like I just started OnlyFans, I didn't have much money and I'd heard that people were getting these BBLs in Turkey for like, you know, 15 grand, 10 grand. So I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to do that. So my impulsive self booked that in. I found a place. We were talking on WhatsApp and they seemed great. Like the English was incredible.
I was sending them before and after photos and they were like, yeah, you're such a good candidate. So I was like, okay, I'm going to do it. And went over to Turkey and just immediately when they picked me up, like no one could speak English. I didn't know what was going on. Like they were taking me to all sorts of different hospitals and like, No one could tell me what was going on.
Like they were trying to find the doctor and they couldn't find him and it was a mess. Eventually when they did find the doctor, as soon as he saw me, he was like, oh, you don't have enough fat to get the surgery. And I was like, yes, I do. I have been like eating like 5,000 calories a day for the past six months to gain weight for this BBL. I know I have enough fat.
I've seen much skinnier girls get good BBLs. So, but I mean, I was there, I was like, I'm gonna go with the surgery. So I went under and yeah, I woke up on the operating table. Could feel, so they use this like metal rod to like get, cause they take the fat out from like your stomach, your back and put it in your butt. I could just feel it getting sucked out of me.
It was just like burning, like this fat getting sucked out of my stomach. It was nasty. And then just woke up and I was just like vomiting blood, like everything, like my body was just malfunctioning. Like it just wasn't coping with the stress it's been under. And yeah, but then, you know, the next day, literally assaulted by a male nurse while I was getting changed.
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Chapter 5: How did Kayla's surgery experience impact her life?
And then he just, he told me how much he, you know, really liked me and how he's been trying to get in contact with me through his photography page. And And just, like, he was just asking if I could, like, do things, like, that was just not discussed prior. So I talked about that and, you know, he got upset that I talked about it and, yeah, it is what it is.
But, like, I don't think there's anything that I regret because I'm very careful with... what I talk about and I'm, like, very strong in my morals and my values. So I think I did get cancelled for hanging out with Drake, though. Ah, yes.
Probably regretted posting that. Oh, Drake.
Yeah, people didn't like that. But I guess, like, I just didn't know... He really had allegations. Like, I knew about the song with Kendrick Lamar, but I wasn't very aware of, like, what had actually been going on. I just got invited to go to dinner with him and then... I posted about it because he didn't make me sign an NDA. So I posted about it and it blew up.
And people got pretty up in arms about the fact that I hung out with him. And he eventually told me to take down the post.
Oh, did he?
Why? You know, he had a lot of hate. Yeah, he was like, hey, yeah, can you take this down? because he had a lot of hate in the media and I guess this was just giving more attention to it. So yeah, I ended up deleting the whole thing. And yeah, that was a tricky time. That was a tricky time. Like I wouldn't say I regret that.
If I could take it back, I don't think I would because it's a learning curve. And you know, like people make mistakes. Like I'm a human being. Like shit happens, you know? At the time, I was, like, stressed about that situation, but... That's what a lot of people were telling me. Look, anyone would take up that opportunity. And for me, it wasn't necessarily just about hanging out with Drake.
It's about, like, I say yes to those opportunities because the amount of people that I meet through that is just incredible. And it just gives me so many opportunities. So I guess in my head, I just had my sex worker money brain locked in. I'm like, this is going to do well for me. So I'm going to do it. And not really thinking about... you know, the consequences.
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Chapter 6: What lessons has Kayla learned about relationships through her work?
And I didn't, which is good.
Well done, but it's hard to resist the lure of that attraction.
Oh, yeah. He was very, very charming, very charming and just exactly my type.
When you said he started acting in a way that was kind of sass.
Yeah. I just, I felt like he was hiding something or like he wasn't telling me the full truth. Like I couldn't find him on social media. Yeah.
What would he have been hiding, a girlfriend or a...?
Potentially. Potentially. I just felt like there was some sort of thing that he wasn't telling me. And I just feel like he was a big manipulator. Like he knew how to play the game. You know, like people who...
will sort of like replicate your like personality in a way just to make you feel like, like just the biggest narcissist, you know, like I couldn't tell if he was in love with me or just the biggest narcissist. So yeah, I really had to cut that one off because it was just, my mental health was not good.
And I did and yeah, I'm strong enough now to not go back, which is good because old me would not have been strong enough. So yeah.
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