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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
What did he say?
Took a while to explain what gooning is.
Yeah, he probably has a different version of what he goons to, for sure.
Nah, he has some good stories. He told us about how a guy threw poop on him in jail, so he lit him on fire in a cell.
Oh, that's a hell of a retaliation. Poop for fire?
how do you strike up a flame that big on somebody like where do you get the gasoline to keep that fire going somebody had like a lighter that like didn't have fluid but it just made little sparks so he was able to like put some i think he said he like pre-doused the dude's uh cell in like baby oil whoa so that like it was just it was super hot
yeah that takes some planning that's the kind of guy I want to interview that's why I'm not trying to go to prison because you got to deal with people that have minds like that that can even think that up quickly and he said that the guy started like throwing toilet water all over the place trying to like put out the fire really like puts it in perspective how crappy being in jail probably is yeah no for sure but I mean you throw shit at people you know you might get lit on fire yeah I mean there's no other response what else you gonna do to top poop
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Chapter 2: What are the stories shared about jail experiences?
fire fire or like only lock to the head something yeah because poop is just disrespectful i thought spit was bad glock dukey in and then you get you got to meet glock dukey with fire that's how it is look at dragonite crib complaining like he's he's scared to donate because he might not get his donations read
Wow. Don't let that stop you.
Dragonite Crip, we will always read out your thoughts and whatever you have to offer.
They've been politicking on Dragonite Crip as a mod lately. I'm not going to lie.
Oh, yeah, because he was just saying, I'm going to ban everybody who's glazing moose.
Yeah, they're saying he's going a little too hard.
Hey, don't make me check the records, because if you're banning the moose glazers, I mean, that's really all we got as a community. Everybody's going to be gone. We're going to come through and blow Dragonite Crip's house up.
Sorry, lost a couple of moose glazers this week. All right, so I need all the ones I can get. Did you? I got disowned by some podcasts. There's been all kinds of stuff going on, man.
I had some people call me from Sacramento, said, you can't even claim Sacramento anymore. You gotta claim Davis and Citrus Heights.
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Chapter 3: How does Moose explain his approach to conflict?
Everything we do, though, is like kick and YouTube at the same time just for the goal.
Like while we had 4,000 people on the YouTube stream during the 24-hour stream, we had like 100 on kick. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
probably it was higher at other times but like i mean we we multi-stream for the most part but like doing the irl streams i think that's what they're referring yeah like what is a 24-hour version of that look like we did the single call one we did the one where we hung out all day and then we went to the the king pill fight
you know, it's like, and what's interesting about it is that it creates so much content for us to talk about on the podcast that even if it's not like immediately profitable, especially given that you have to be out filming all day, usually we need security, et cetera.
You get Shotgate out of it. You get, you know, Lush pressing smokers out of it.
You get, you know, all the great moments. Lush getting killed by his girlfriend because he was cuddled up in skids.
Sigil cult members killing each other.
Murder. Yeah, exactly. We never even like,
found out what happened like you've never even been in tune with those folks if you guys weren't streaming iro you know no definitely but i mean overall i had a good time i thought that it was it was fun i mean i don't know how much it was devalued in people's minds because i slept for 24 hours but for sure like me at by 3 a.m like when i went to sleep and i was like back on by like 9 or 10 i was like a different person like it was crazy how much a little it's just yeah it'd be a lot that was like one of the only times i've ever been on camera without like pre-caffeine
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Chapter 4: What led to the confrontation with Wack 100?
You're just saying things just to say them. Even if you didn't agree with me getting attached, you'd just be like, oh, that's crazy. You ain't got to say it. Because you know in our community, if you say a nigga dicks, that's like the most foul shit you could say to somebody. But then I was just like, well, that's just Hollywood.
But T-Roll actually sucks dicks. I've heard. But yeah, I mean, you know what it is, though? It's like it's a culture that exists around this whole little like extended No Jumper podcast universe in which anyone who takes anything seriously at all, anyone who displays any level of passion or commitment is just hounded and mocked. And like I'll give you an example. Like, let's say that.
Let's say that that busy girl, okay Let's say you just like hit it off with her and you and you really liked her and all of a sudden you guys are in a relationship Can you imagine a world in which the people in this extended universe would actually just be respectful of it? No, they are going to find a way to devalue her right to label you as some sort of pathetic simp to label her
because they're gonna find a picture from five years ago of her in a bathing suit you know it's like they just like everywhere and it's not just it's not just them it's just like everybody in this universe in particular the people who are basically reaction channels where it's like no matter what happens they have to drag it out they have to turn it into something cynical and negative and that's why i kind of like advise people generally speaking like if you have something that's really really important to you just kind of keep it out of public keep something for yourself like with lunch
like I wouldn't fight with my girlfriend and let everybody on the podcast know that I was fighting with my girlfriend if I am fighting with my wife I don't really bring that to the podcast let's say like my kid was having some sort of developmental problem or like was acting crazy in school or whatever it's like I'm not gonna bring that kind of stuff to the podcast because everything that you bring to the podcast like of yourself is just gonna get manipulated and used real fast but also I know that people are just you know they do
they content a lot of these fools don't know us like that so they're going to talk a certain way and it's like i don't give a bro like but that's the thing about t-rel and like how hypocritical it is is that the first time he came on no jumper he filmed it all behind the scenes and put out a vlog and the title was first no jumper episode dream come true
So, like, this was actually his dream come true. And for the last three years, he's been forced to do nothing but ruminate on how probably the biggest mistake that he ever made in his entire life, besides not responding to the lawsuit that he got sued for millions of dollars, was... Leaving no jumper. Like he would still be a relevant content creator.
And instead he's toiling away in obscurity because of the fact that he left at a time where he didn't necessarily have the leverage to leave. He thought he did. And look how that worked out on him. Look, look at how being a cynical negative psychopath worked out for him.
And then I would say that me and Doe are kind of coming with that T-Rell approach. Like we're coming, taking this opportunity serious. We're appreciative for this opportunity and we're going to go hard in the paint to try to make the platform as good as possible while we're here. And I see all these people talking shit about that. But look at T-Rell.
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Chapter 5: What are Boosie's thoughts on Vlad's interview strategy?
Yeah, you know, Vlad has just continued to talk about it at length, and it seems like Boosie doesn't really appreciate that at a certain point. Now, I haven't actually got a chance to watch it yet, but I want to. Boosie put out an entire interview on Patreon.
Now, there are no clips that have actually made their way to his YouTube channel yet, but we have seen the scenario that Vlad oftentimes tries to avoid in which, Nearly every notable moment from the Boosie Patreon has now made its way to the Instagram accounts and the Twitter accounts. Oh, they already ripped it.
Chapter 6: What controversial comments did Boosie make about his upcoming movie?
All the rippers ripped it. Exactly. And so what Vlad quite often does, because he's had to deal with this so many times over the years, is basically like, if he has...
let's say there's 30 clips from the boosty interview let's say the first four are really really viral things that he knows will spread aggressively on uh different pages or whatever he won't put it out for members he'll drop those four clips then he'll put out the whole thing for members and that way he knows those people will just rip it and then take all the traffic and also if you've ever watched a vlad interview in which he kind of like awkwardly like goes right into like the most
Quite often, there's no small talk. We got to get to the clips that I'm going to get out first. Otherwise, this is weird. So that's been going on. I haven't actually watched it yet. There is one clip that a lot of people were saying like Vlad would have edited this out. And it's basically Boosie describing how in an upcoming movie of his, there's a rape scene.
and it sounded like it's him doing the alleged r-wording boosie all right now i gotta play for you guys you gotta hear boosie talk about it because it's kind of awkward yeah i saw the vlad tweet about the patreon interview and he's like you know boosie's running into all the same stuff i've ran into he's got us you know start focusing on dropping fire content for years and years to build up a fan base so he was definitely going in on boosie lately
And let's also point out before we even watch this, as much as I would assume that the allegations are not true, Boosie did have a girl come out a couple of weeks ago and basically say that Boosie...
r worded her oh oh i did see that yeah when she was very young we haven't really heard any updates on that situation announced it and then it just kind of went away he claims that he is actually like suing her but either way bussy sort of explains um this movie scene here and to say that this is awkward is probably an understatement but let's uh check this out ain't in there they might get a lot he well we'll get a lot i got like a
Like a rape scene in there. Pussy, you gotta rape the music. Hold on, let me explain it. Before I fuck up. It's not really a rape scene. It's like my best friend fucking my wife. And so I'ma go put something in his wife drink.
his fiance drink and she gonna pass out and I'm gonna wouldn't say rape absolutely I'm gonna have sexy lingerie I'm gonna put a lingerie on her you know kiss on her body soft you know uh but she gonna be out But it's like sexual, like, I wouldn't call it, it's not aggravated. I wouldn't call it aggravated.
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Chapter 7: How does Vlad's payment model affect his relationship with guests?
I would call it a sexual misdemeanor. Something like that, a sexual misdemeanor. Sexual misdemeanor? Yeah, because it's not that kind of rape. It's like, you know, putting her stuff on. So I wouldn't call it a sexual misdemeanor.
So, for the record, if you put something in a woman's drink that makes her pass out, for sure that's rape. Non-consensual, absolutely. And for sure, if you dress her up in a nice dress, I don't even think this needs to be said, but for sure that is rape. Yeah.
Now, I know Boosie's talking about something that his character in the movie does, but it does kind of stand out that maybe Vlad had been keeping the Boosie train on the tracks in a way that we were sort of like undervaluing because now he's on his own platform. It seems like they forgot to set a light up, which kind of adds to obviously the music added a lot like this, like dark.
energy to the clip now but it's just very strange and the fact that there's absolutely no pushback from the person on the other side of the camera and for the record having not seen it in full who knows maybe he did push back a little bit but for sure I can imagine if Vlad was in the room that Vlad would have done a whole lot of like okay wait so what can you explain?
He would have really like, he would have pushed to try to get him to make sense in a way that was really lacking.
I feel like this whole thing is getting ugly too. One misstep that I think that Vlad did was when he started talking about what
the number was that he was paying Boosie because I don't know if you've seen this now but Aerie Spears well okay so you're speeding now because yeah we're definitely going to get to that but yeah it does seem like Vlad kind of had Boosie like you know tiptoeing on the line of like crossing the line but he was always able to be like know where the line
is because he's been doing content so long and that's kind of what adam was saying on the last spot will boosie find somebody to kind of be able to know that line and then know to push back when he says yeah this isn't our word and someone when you slip something in her drink and she ain't even know it on some rick ross shit you ever notice when there's like the little cuts in uh in uh different vlad videos where it kind of feels like you know something has been
cut out i kind of feel like everything he said there should have been cut out yeah because it's just not even like the fact that it's a character and all it's the way that he's talking about and justifying even just for your character it's like well you know that you know this guy did this to my wife in the
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Chapter 8: What insights are shared about the dynamics of podcasting and audience engagement?
So I do think that this... does not seem like it's uh fully optimized yeah right now but yeah so what you were saying is that basically vlad made it clear that he was paying busi 25 000 now this has opened up a whole slew of new issues for vlad because he actually got hit up by aries spears now aries who
comedian actor etc been working in hollywood and whatnot for i don't know like 40 years or some shit like that he's been around for a long time legendary vlad interviewee the amount of clips that are still circulate from
five, six, seven years ago, Harry's like on there. I mean, they have pirate versions of Harry Spears clips. Like it's like super legendary.
It's like taken on a sort of like meme status over the last couple of years that I think like nobody was really expecting, including Harry Spears and Vlad. And so, yeah, like their partnership. And I watched as Vlad kind of like manicured and sculpted the relationship with areas, because I think he, he saw, uh,
Where Aries could have the same sort of relationship with the audience that Boosie has. Right. The difference being Aries gets a lot less views than Boosie, which is not really hard to fathom. Boosie's like, you know, basically does Vlad interviews and like is extremely popular or whatever. But it's that raw.
unapologetic answers say whatever he feels and you could talk to Aries Spears about things that you probably couldn't really talk to Boosie about yeah the gay conversation went viral with them talking about Vlad saying something wasn't gay and Aries is like no you're gay so basically as this whole conversation is taking place in the public eye about Boosie
aries spears reaches out to vlad and says yo we need to renegotiate because apparently now we know because vlad actually put an hour-long video of him in academics talking about this is that basically he was paying aries spears a thousand dollars and as the years went by it got up to four thousand dollars so he's actually paying him four thousand dollars roughly like once a month
to do an interview. And I guess he lives right near Vlad's studio. That's a pretty good deal. Yeah, pretty good. Especially considering that like every other pod... And Vlad loves to mention this, but like every other podcast that Aries was going on was not paying. You know, all these comedy podcasts, et cetera. They weren't paying him.
For the strength, yeah.
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