Demented Little Tango with Vinson Cunningham
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What is the introduction of Normal Gossip?
If you have been listening to the past few episodes or following us on Instagram at normal gossip, then you know that this September, Sierra and I are bringing normal gossip to nine different cities. We are stopping in New York, Boston, Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Denver, Dallas, Austin, Chicago, and Minneapolis. Tickets went on sale to the public on Friday, May 9th. So that means that if you are listening right now in this moment and live in any of those cities, you can go buy a ticket immediately at normalgossiplive.com. Every show has exclusive VIP tickets that include a meet and greet with Sierra and I. So I hope you're all workshopping what... Delicious little tidbits of gossip are going to bring us.
I know we're close to four months out, but a little birdie did tell me that Minneapolis, Boston, and Portland are selling particularly fast. So if you live in those cities and have been considering buying a ticket recently, I'd do it soon. That is all the housekeeping for today's show. Now, on to the gossip. Today, I'm so excited to be joined by one of my absolute favorite writers in the whole wide world, Vincent Cunningham. Vincent is a staff writer at The New Yorker where he's written about theater and television. He's also a co-host of Critics at Large, which is the New Yorker's weekly culture podcast. Last year, he published a gorgeous novel called Great Expectations. Yes, there's another very famous novel with that title, but let's be real here. Vincent's is better. It's a semi-autobiographical novel about a young Black man working on the historical presidential campaign of a Black senator from Illinois. Yes, I know that sounds familiar. Yes, it is who you think it is. Yes, it is so good.
It came out in paperback, and I truly think everyone should go out and buy it right now. But without further ado, here's the man, the myth, the legend himself, Vincent. Hello.
Hey.
Thank you so much for joining me.
This is my total pleasure. This is the best. To be on a podcast with somebody I already like to talk to.
Who is Vinson Cunningham and what is his background?
Joy. I'm so excited to gossip with you. I already know that you're good at gossip because I've heard you gossip before.
Wow. I can't even pretend on this podcast that I don't do that.
Well...
perfect because i have to ask you what's your relationship with gossip and we love honesty and transparency on this podcast well as you just exposed for me sometimes i do in fact gossip i do still feel though that and maybe the reason that i do it when i feel empowered and equipped to do so is that generally i am not a good receiver of gossip i feel like i don't know what it is maybe I have cop energy, maybe I have church boy energy, whatever it is, people tend not to tell me just weird, lurid secrets, which is, of course, the fuel of all good gossip.
I don't know.
Or it's taken me a while for that to be the condition of my life. I often analogize it to this. You know there's just a big party, and then you learn that there's cocaine in the bathroom? No one has ever told me about the cocaine. I never know that there's drugs. I'm always the one from whom it is hit in plain sight.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the introduction of Normal Gossip?
0:55–3:04
2
Who is Vinson Cunningham and what is his background?
3:04–6:13
3
What gossip does Vinson share about a private school incident?
6:13–10:30
4
How do competitive fundraising dynamics play out in private schools?
10:30–15:56
5
What challenges does Ellen face during the eighth-grade fundraiser?
15:56–20:58
6
What items are up for auction and how do they reflect school dynamics?
20:58–29:26
7
How does Ellen's attitude change throughout the fundraiser?
29:26–47:18