Sluts for Paperwork with Yowei Shaw

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How did Yowei Shaw get involved with gossip?

Ira Glass 0:10
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Rachelle Hampton 0:37
Hello and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we're going to bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. If you tuned in last week or to the finale of Season 7, I'm sorry because you're about to hear me repeat myself. Like I said at the top of the premiere of this season, if you haven't tuned in in a while, you might be thinking... That's not Kelsey's voice. You're correct. Your ears work. I'm still not Kelsey. And that will remain true for the foreseeable future unless they end up creating that face-off machine. At the end of season seven, normal gossip underwent a peaceful transition of power. And I'm the captain now. If you'd like more details on the transition and our feelings around them, go listen to the finale of Season 7. If you've already done that, welcome. I'm so excited you're here, and I am even more excited to introduce our second guest of Season 8.
Rachelle Hampton 1:31
Today, I am joined by Yoé Shaw, the host and producer of Proxy, a podcast that answers niche emotional questions through conversations with experts and strangers with shared experiences. Yoe self-describes as an emotional investigative journalist, which is one of my favorite job titles I've ever heard.
Yowei Shaw 1:50
Yoe, hello. Welcome. Thank you for coming. Hello. Thank you so much for having me. I feel like I've made it to the Gossip Olympics or something.
Rachelle Hampton 2:01
Oh my God, we're here. We're on the podium. We're going to distribute some medals. I guess this is the post-game interview because I need to know, what's your relationship to gossip? I love it.
Yowei Shaw 2:13
I'm always hunting for gossip to the point where some of my friends find me dramatic. Which I disagree with. I'm just looking to be entertained. And I am launching this new podcast, so I don't do anything right now. I've just been in crunch mode, and I am depending on my friends' gossip to feel alive. Recently, I had these two friends who did this very cute thing. They're these two very imposing, tall, manly-looking men who were in Austin recently, and they went in together on these – $400 snakeskin cowboy boots that they were going to share. And they live in two different cities. So they were going to trade off who was wearing the boots. Wait, custody arrangement for the snakeskin boots? Sisterhood of the traveling pants, but for cowboy boots.
Yowei Shaw 3:07
So recently I was catching up with one of my friends and I was like, so who has the boots? Is there any boot drama yet? Yeah. And he was like, boot brothers don't have drama. What? And then he said, I quote, I try to live without gossip.
Rachelle Hampton 3:24
Your friend just went from so high in my ranking of other people's friends. To so low, so quickly. How do you go from the iconicness of the first rule of Boot Brothers is don't talk about Boot Brothers to I try to live without gossip. Why would you do that? Why would you deprive yourself?
Yowei Shaw 3:46
I felt very judged. And I also felt sad for him. Yeah. Because I was like, you're setting yourself up in this very cute situation. Why wouldn't you try to squeeze some like gossip juice out of this? Yeah. You know, like even if it's positive gossip. Exactly. I have a very expansive definition of gossip. So like positive gossip counts too.
Rachelle Hampton 4:09
Yes, 100%. Kelsey calls it possip, positive gossip, which is very cute. And I feel like that situation lends itself so well to positive gossip. Like, did you wear the boots on a date? Did the date go well? Did the date go badly? Did the date notice the boots? Who's complimented you on the boots in public? What were they wearing? What are you wearing the boots with?

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