BlackRock's Rob Goldstein on the Next Megatrends in Finance
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Joe, when I think about the world of finance and what I would describe as mega trends of recent years and decades, there are definitely two that spring to mind, maybe a third trend, although I don't know if it's mega or not. Probably is. The first is definitely the rise of the buy side. So this idea that it very much used to be all about the banks, and those were the ones that we kind of obsessed over. And then you have this extraordinary growth in the asset management industry. The second megatrend has to be technology, right? Think about the rise of electronic trading, electronic risk management, model-driven risk management.
I like this.
And then the third semi-mega trend, I don't know, rise of private markets, right?
Yeah. Oh, I have another one. Okay. That I think is legit. The sort of power law domination of a few mega companies and sort of whether it's consolidated.
The big get bigger.
The winner take all-ness or the winner take most-ness of the industry. I would add that as a mega trend.
Okay, that's great.
And I would say that connects to this episode.
Absolutely. So we have four big slash mega trends and we have the perfect guest to talk about all of those four things. And it comes at a time when obviously we're in this new sort of technological wave with AI. It very much feels like everyone in professional finance wants to figure out a way of being involved in AI in one way or another. It's funny, I was meeting up with someone who works at a very large bank the other day and they were talking about how work that they've done 20 years ago Their managers are now adamant it has to be put into a big Excel database because they're about to shove all of that into an AI model. So you can see there's this urgency. And there's a perennial question over how much of it is real.
Random data that exists somewhere, they need to have it as part of a data lake or whatever so that the AI model knows about it. Exactly.
And I think the question for this is how much of it is managers who are latching on to the AI trend versus how much of this is actually going to become productive, useful technology for finance. So we can definitely talk a little bit about that. But we do have the perfect guest. Let's do it. All right. So we're going to be speaking with Rob Goldstein. He is, of course, the COO of BlackRock, someone who has literally lived through basically all of these megatrends that we just described.
Yes. And the question is, how many hours do we have? You know, needless to say, those megatrends we could talk about for quite some time. Yeah. We could do a series. We could do a series. And one thing I would just politely identify, I think, is people talk about the big getting bigger. Yeah. I think there's an underlying catalyst towards those who could provide a better value proposition are getting bigger. And I think that's the key theme that's happening, particularly with regard to the buy side.
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