Why It's Still So Expensive to Build Homes in America
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Why are new homes in the United States still as expensive to build as they were decades ago?
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What does a typical homeowner experience when a new house has a leak or other repair issue?
I'm Tracy Alloway.
And I'm Joe Weisenthal.
Joe, you're a homeowner now, right?
Yeah, it's really fun.
Tell me, tell me how fun it is. I know you've had a few issues that cropped up basically as soon as you bought your new place.
I don't want to talk about let's go, let's move on. No, it's like no, this is part of my carefully planned interview. Yes, I know. Yeah, it's annoying and you have to deal with stuff.
Why has construction‑labour productivity in housing fallen more than 30 % since the 1970s?
And I I may have mentioned on the show one time. Actually I've been lucky, by and large. But yes, it was very funny, you know, the I think of literally the day or two days after we closed on my apartment in the East Village. You know, it's like when there was something wrong before, you just there's just a phone number of someone and you call up the land the building still is a super, but you know, the landlord just deals with replacing something. And then I think literally the day after we closed, there was like a window leak. And it's like, Wait, is there no longer a number? Do I have to pay for this myself?
So who did you find to fix the window?
That I don't remember. There is still a super in the building and the super but we had to write a check.
Okay. One of the things that has surprised me about being a homeowner is like how low tech a lot of the housing construction and fixing actually is, right? So if there's a leak in your ceiling, in your roof or something, it's literally either you or some guy that you hire going up on a ladder and like putting down a few more shingles with a nail gun, right? It all seems very old. Well what did you think was
gonna happen?
How have past attempts at mass‑produced prefab housing (e.g., Sears kits, Lestron, Sterling) succeeded or failed?
Well
I don't know. Is it
gonna be like some like unitree like robot that like crawled up their drone?
No, seriously, it's the year twenty twenty five and we're still putting houses together with like you know, and someone You
know, you know, you know, you know,
hammers and someone
someone comes with a box and they look through to the different screen, they're like, No, this doesn't fit, this doesn't fit. Oh, I got it. And then they're like, one second, I don't have the right screw it, and they go around to a construction store. Oh, they'll be right back, like, oh, I got this, I got yeah. Yeah, it's still pretty, probably the way it looked when we were kids.
Okay. Well, anyway, I've been thinking about it because a couple of months ago the Richmond Fed put out this paper and it was all about productivity in housing construction.
What can we learn from Brian Potter’s experience at the Katara prefab startup and its bankruptcy?
And the fact that construction labor productivity in housing has fallen by more than 30% from 1970 to 2020. That's crazy. So you think about the arc of economic development, you know, normally there are productivity improvements as we invent new efficiencies and as we invent new technology and ways of making things. That hasn't happened in housing. It's still the guy, you know, showing up with a toolbox.
This strikes me as a really important element of the housing affordability conversation that I don't think gets enough attention, which is it's easy to talk about zoning and I'm sure there are issues there that need reform.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why are new homes in the United States still as expensive to build as they were decades ago?
0:00–1:21
2
What does a typical homeowner experience when a new house has a leak or other repair issue?
1:21–1:41
3
Why has construction‑labour productivity in housing fallen more than 30 % since the 1970s?
1:41–2:43
4
How have past attempts at mass‑produced prefab housing (e.g., Sears kits, Lestron, Sterling) succeeded or failed?
2:43–3:19
5
What can we learn from Brian Potter’s experience at the Katara prefab startup and its bankruptcy?
3:19–4:36
6
Why is it so hard to achieve true factory‑scale efficiencies for whole houses?
4:36–7:40
7
Why does the U.S. still build most homes with wood frames while other countries use concrete and steel?
7:40–8:58
8
Is there still a viable “silver bullet” that could finally make modular housing cheap enough for mass adoption?
8:58–48:48
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