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Office Ladies

Second Drink: Frame Toby

11 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

1.921 - 31.231 Jenna Fischer

Welcome to our second drink of Frame Toby. Ah, Frame Toby. Michael is horrified because Toby is back at Dunder Mifflin. So he's going to try to get rid of him, obviously, by framing him with drugs that he got from Leo and Gino. Well, we have great behind-the-scenes details in this episode from our producers, Randy Cordray and James Carey, and writers Jen Salata and Paul Lieberstein.

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31.751 - 36.697 Jenna Fischer

So many good nuggets. And thanks to everyone who wrote in to share their thoughts about this episode.

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Chapter 2: Why is Michael horrified about Toby's return?

37.158 - 53.399 Jenna Fischer

Just a reminder, y'all, we have all of Season 5's episodes in a folder on our website, officeladies.com. So go in there and write us your thoughts on the upcoming episodes because we love hearing from you. And we are going to kick off today's second drink with a theme that several people connected with.

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53.74 - 79.483 Jenna Fischer

And Jenna, you and I discussed some of this in our Is Toby the Scranton Strangler debate episode that we did. Yes. Well, listen to this. Julia G. from Littleton, Colorado says, My question is, do you think the reason Michael hates Toby so much is is that deep down, he knows that Toby has it in him to become the Scranton Strangler. Yes, Julia. Yes. No, Julia.

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79.504 - 89.421 Jenna Fischer

I don't think you know where I stand on this. This is our whole debate episode. Even if Toby was the Scranton Strangler, Michael would miss all the signs.

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Chapter 3: What behind-the-scenes insights are shared about the episode?

89.401 - 105.486 Jenna Fischer

Well, listen, now we've already debated this in a whole episode. Well, I'm not even debating if Toby is the Scranton Strangler. I'm just saying if he was, Michael wouldn't clock it. I don't think Michael's anger at Toby has anything to do with this Strangler business. I mean, sometimes.

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105.466 - 132.978 Jenna Fischer

michael has spidey sense about people so i don't know okay well maybe maybe well we also got a letter from hannah b from ontario who said do we think toby's defensive reaction to having his things searched by the cops is evidence toward him being the strangler but hannah also wanted to acknowledge creed Hannah points out that Creed is clearly guilty of having narcotics in the office.

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133.64 - 157.877 Jenna Fischer

And this is maybe evidence confirming his need for two chairs to access his ceiling grow operation, which I thought was very funny. I have to say, though, Hannah also pointed out that Toby is also normally passive and non-confrontational, and she was surprised when he got defensive, especially if he didn't have anything to hide. I'm just saying. What is happening right now?

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158.297 - 183.814 Jenna Fischer

Are we reopening this debate? We are not, but we did get mail that made me laugh about it. But we also... We also got a fan mail flurry, lady. Yes, we sure did. We got a fan mail flurry from Damon H., Leighton R. from California, Miranda D. from Australia, Joyce S. from Oklahoma, who all wrote in to say that their favorite scene from this episode is when Michael sees Toby is back and screams no.

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183.834 - 210.231 Jenna Fischer

And Yasmin Y. in Dallas, Texas said, did you know that there is a YouTube compilation video which has Michael's no, no, In clips in multiple languages? I did not know that. Yasmin says, it's hilarious. Look it up if you haven't seen it. Since neither of us had, lady, I pulled the clip, but there's a lot of people yelling no at you in different languages. So let's hear three of them.

213.314 - 220.06 Ryan Howard

No, God! No, God, please, no! No! No!

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No!

225.565 - 235.479 Toby Flenderson

Hi, Michael. Nein, Gott! Nein, Gott, bitte, nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!

238.263 - 261.937 Unknown

Ciao, Michael. No! Oddio! No! Dio, ti prego, no! No! No! No! No! Привет, Michael. Нет! Боже! It's literally funny in every language.

Chapter 4: What cleaning tips does Jenna provide for a microwave?

898.338 - 917.697 Jenna Fischer

He's got to come on. He's an office lady. We need to have Randy and James come on. Yes. Because they worked together. Okay, future revisited, everybody. Did you hear that, Randy and James? I guess that's my serious tone. What am I doing? Did you hear that? You're coming on the pod, fellas. I'm going to move us into fast fact number three. Okay.

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918.082 - 946.386 Jenna Fischer

I think the world is going to be grateful for this fast fact because I was grateful for it. Oh, no. Somebody did a deep dive. This is how to clean a microwave. Oh, Lord. This episode's about dirty microwaves. And I thought, how could we clean this microwave? This episode is about dirty microwaves. All right. Ainsley Bubico, our associate producer, helped me with this and I love it.

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946.746 - 970.126 Jenna Fischer

Here is how to clean a real dirty microwave. Okay. All right. Get a microwave safe bowl. Fill it with two cups of water and two tablespoons of vinegar. Now, side note, if you'd like, you could add a drop of your favorite essential oil if you want. If you want to be fancy. Yeah, you can clean your microwave fancy or regular. Okay.

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970.146 - 993.331 Jenna Fischer

Now, turn the microwave on, obviously, put the bowl in the microwave, and then put it on high for five minutes. You want it to get real steamy in there. Okay. That's what she said. After it's done, don't open the microwave door for 15 minutes. Why? Because you'll burn yourself or something? No, because that makes all the baked-on grime sort of soften. Oh, and then you can wipe it off?

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993.652 - 1012.52 Jenna Fischer

Yeah, that's step three. Wipe it off. Just wipe it out. Done. Your microwave is clean. You're welcome. You're welcome. That's it. We can go to break. You can clean your microwave while you listen to some advertisements. Or if you're listening on Stitcher Premium, you won't have time to clean your microwave because it's ad free.

1013.361 - 1019.63 Jenna Fischer

Oh, well, let's take a break because Jinda just told me the bathrooms in New York are real far from where you're sitting.

1019.81 - 1020.311 Unknown

They are.

1020.451 - 1051.011 Jenna Fischer

And you need a key. Oh, yeah. Well, in L.A., it's a porta potty on the side of the road. So I'm going to go. Sam is applauding. All right, guys, we'll be right back. We'll be right back. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and if you've been thinking about trying therapy, now's a great time to get started.

1051.392 - 1076.575 Jenna Fischer

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Chapter 5: How does Michael plan to frame Toby?

1540.215 - 1554.101 Jenna Fischer

You know it. Did you really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I did. Were you a psycho girlfriend? You know what? He was cheating on me that night. Oh, so you knew. You knew. I knew it.

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Chapter 6: How do Pam and the office react to the dirty microwave?

1554.542 - 1573.025 Jenna Fischer

We broke up after that. Oh, man. Yeah. I wouldn't light up the pager. I'm like sitting here calling you psycho. I wouldn't light up the pager, but I would drive over and like hide out in a bush. That's so much more elaborate than texting 911. Here was my plan. I was like, I know he's cheating on me.

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1573.466 - 1590.992 Jenna Fischer

So I'm going to light up that pager and make it buzz so that while they're whatever they're doing, the pagers is like zing, zing, zing, zing, zing. I'm just going to ruin their good time. He probably just turned it off. I guess I'm just going to jump out of a bush and be like, hey, what are you doing? Gotcha.

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Chapter 7: What is the significance of Jim buying his parents' house?

1592.508 - 1621.568 Jenna Fischer

Now I'm going to go home because I've got twigs in my hair and I'm embarrassed. Is this a plot line for mom detectives? Should we set mom detectives in the past where all we have are pagers and bush hiding? Yes. Oh, bush hiding. Uh-oh. That could be something else. What's wrong with us? Can we call it bush hiders? No. We can't. It doesn't even make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.

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1621.608 - 1641.566 Jenna Fischer

You go pitch it. Hi, our show. It's called Bush Hiders. And if you don't want to buy it, you're an a**hole because this is gold. And they're like, what's it about? And we're like, it's two mom detectives. It's two older women in comfortable clothing. Yeah, we're not wearing any designer clothes. We want like 30-minute wardrobe sessions. It won't be fitted.

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1643.288 - 1667.973 Jenna Fischer

And we want a lot of old tech that no one watching it will really understand. And we're going to hide in some bushes. Yeah. Do you want it? OK, where are we? We shouldn't have shared that on the air because someone's going to steal it. I guarantee you in two years, you're going to turn on HBO Max and there's going to be two 20-year-olds starring in a show called Bush Hiders. Mark my word.

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1669.195 - 1691.573 Jenna Fischer

Mark my word. And they're going to be young, hot detectives in designer clothes. That's how it works in this business. That's right. I'm not jaded. All right. Should we move on? What's happened to me in New York? Who am I here? I don't know. You just took a big swig of coffee and you're like, that's how it works in the business. Well, listen, you know what?

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1691.633 - 1712.739 Jenna Fischer

David Wallace tells Michael he's just going to have to deal with it. Yeah. And he couldn't believe that one of his employees had been back so long and he didn't know. And Dwight and Michael let him know that the annex is icky. It's icky back there. Yeah. And he really wants David to get rid of Toby. And David says, I can't get rid of him without cause. And Michael says, he has cause.

1712.919 - 1737.639 Jenna Fischer

It's because I hate him. Because. But that is not obviously cause. Well, they're going to find something. But Jenna, another issue is happening. Yeah. It's a day of drama in the office. Pam is preparing food in the kitchen and she discovers a mess in the microwave. Jenna? Yeah. Did you see what Pam was preparing? I know what Pam was preparing. Share.

1737.68 - 1769.683 Jenna Fischer

This is maybe one of my most frequently asked questions outside of what was in the teapot note. No way. Yes. People are like, what is Pam microwaving in the episode with the dirty microwave? Here are some guesses. We got mail. Here are what people are guessing that I was microwaving. Okay. Apple juice. Hmm. A probiotic drink. Okay. Egg whites, bone broth, soup, milk, porridge, and yogurt.

1769.703 - 1793.461 Jenna Fischer

Well, I had no idea, so I looked at the script. But Jenna, you tell us. It's egg whites. It's egg whites, which I, by the way, knowing my BFF in real life, thought was kind of fitting. Yeah, because you can buy egg whites in these little cups, and that's what she's doing. She's going to microwave herself some egg whites. A lot of people also asked what was in the microwave.

1794.122 - 1819.997 Jenna Fischer

That is also in the script. And it just says like a saucy mess, basically. I typed it out. It says, Pam opens the microwave door to put in some egg whites, but the microwave is splattered all over with red sauce. Yeah. Now we're in the break room. And what would we title this? Jim's exposed in the break room. Exposure in the break room. Exposure in the break room.

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