On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Telepathy Tapes Creator Ky Dickens Reveals Shocking NEW Evidence on the Link Between Telepathy and Non-Speakers with Autism
03 Mar 2025
Chapter 1: What groundbreaking discoveries are discussed in The Telepathy Tapes?
There is a history here for sure. And I think the first thing that's kind of made the stigma around spelling really take hold was with facilitated communication, where facilitated communication was the first, oh my gosh, the individuals are spelling that people thought were locked inside and could never spell. And that required like touch communication.
And the use of touch became problematic, I think, especially with some people who weren't trained because some awful court cases erupted from consent that wasn't given. Right. Horrible things that that happened through through this form of spelling. So then spelling evolved into rapid prompting method and spelling to communicate. And now the spellers method where no touch at all.
I mean, you cannot touch. It's like a tenant of that. And when you sit in the room with a speller, it's really remarkable to watch, you know, because they're not being touched. They're spelling. It's clear. They're pointing directly to where they want to go. It's not like a struggle. The parent is certainly not going like this. You know, often it's completely like rooted.
So it's really difficult that that stigma exists because these individuals are having to prove constantly. I'm in here. My words are mine. I authored them. And that's really hard. But I will say that this is not a new thing. Sign language took over 100 years to become accepted, even in the 60s, 70s.
Walk me through that. I didn't know that. I learned that through listening. Like 150 years sign language took to be accepted. What were the steps? Do you know?
I mean, I think people were saying it wasn't a real language. There's no grammatical structure. The rallying cry was that anyone who is deaf should learn to read lips and try to speak. Basically fit into our world. We are not going to allow this language to take place. Same thing happened with Braille.
Louis Braille, the inventor of Braille, kind of modified this language where you could use dots to communicate. And it was considered, it was outlawed. They weren't allowed to use it in school where he was going to school.
When they finally did a big test to prove that one person who was blind was going to spell something and another person was going to read it because the kids were using it like quietly, even though it was like outlawed in the school. And when they did that big test with viewers and people to watch, the first big claim was they're cheating.
They practiced in advance to pretend what they were going to write. It seemed outlandish that you could read dots with your finger and spell by poking holes into something. And so Braille went through the same dilemma. And so I think this control of how we use language, who's allowed to use it, and if it's valid is not new. But it's really unfortunate because...
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Chapter 2: How did Ky Dickens transition into exploring telepathy?
So I'll just message them and say, hey, I'm thinking of you and, you know, sending love. I'm here for you. And 99% of the time someone will message me back and say, I was just thinking about you. Or I really need to try now, whatever it may be. Now, whatever that is, I always love the magic of being able to send that message, whether it is met with a positive response or not.
And it's just a beautiful thing to try. And I think, I just love that your work is making us more curious and opening us up to these ideas, because that to me is the part of us that's missing when it comes to spiritual innovation.
Mark Twain talked about, he called it mental telegraphy. And this was his observation that often you would write a letter to someone you hadn't thought about in five, seven years. And then the day that you postmarked it, you'd receive a letter. Seven days later, whatever it was, postmarked the same day from that person on the other side of the globe.
So it's like you both had the physical male proof of when you sent the letter. And Mark Twain marveled in that, as one should. And Upton Sinclair, who wrote The Jungle, I mean... you know, beautiful writer.
And one of his books that he wrote after he had like gone through his life was called Mental Radio, where him and his wife did a bunch of telepathy tests together and they documented how accurate they were. And I love the opening to that book by Upton Sinclair, because he's like, this would be the type of thing that should be dismissed or you should, you know, is held with such high skepticism.
But what he said is after I've experienced it, I know this to be true. And I loved his words. He wasn't like, I think this is true. It was, I know this is true. So. This has all been around.
Yeah. I was actually going to ask you about the connection between dreams and telepathy. Has there been any connection there? Have you come across anything between those two?
Well, I mean, I think for people who are deeply interested in that, we have an episode on that, which is episode eight of the telepathy tapes. which I do encourage people to listen to an order, but there was one mom in England and I wanted to, we have a spelling episode all about spelling and that's episode eight where we go into the issues around spelling.
But I thought one of the best non-speakers to highlight in that episode would be someone who never learned to spell and him and his mom have a telepathic link together, but it's formed in their dreams where he brings her into a lucid dreaming state and The first time it ever happened, I love this story. He was younger. I think he was maybe like 11 or so. It came to her in a dream.
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Chapter 3: What is the connection between non-speakers with autism and telepathy?
I think even psychedelics and people's embrace of how that can help with mental health and explorations of consciousness and theā Trials are doing where people feel like they are certain there's more, you know, and that's happening with this exposure of what the non-speakers are hoping to, I think, teach us alongside sudden interest and validation on UAP.
Like, it seems like it's all converging at once. Yes. And we're just like in the water of it right now. Like, I don't even think we realize how significant this moment is for humans and consciousness. Yeah. It's a cool time to be alive.
Yeah. How do we make sure that it's not made quiet and put down? Because I imagine that that's, you know, a natural thing that's happened in the past as well.
Yeah, that it's been, it's backed down and just... Yeah, because it's seen as scary.
It's, or people are like, oh, this is bad or it's, you know, whatever. So how do we make sure that we keep asking these questions and...
I think social media has changed everything because I think the scaffolding of control was always very powerful before because it's like someone had the ability to silence you and no one would know that happened. Like you could be just quieted and not be able to get your truth out and they'd steal your camera and it was done, you know? But I feel like...
Or there'd just be a mass discrediting of someone. What's happening now with social media is you can get out a truth very quickly and find other people who agree and concur and thumb up it. And it's much more difficult to make someone seem bonkers, especially when there's a lot of people validating a truth.
if scientists and others in the community are open to wanting to go and be with the non-speakers and be a part of this, how do we do, and how does the general public do it in a way that isn't disrespectful? Because I can imagine that testing and things could be exhausting for these individuals. They're humans. We're kind of, you know, this whole process is somewhat invasive of
Yeah. I mean, I get very nervous about that. And I feel like scientists and researchers, it's like, you have your questions, but like, just let's pause for a second, you know?
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