BONUS: The Blessings of Liberty: Jeffrey Rosen & Ken Burns on America’s 250th

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What is the purpose of the Blessings of Liberty bonus episode and who are the hosts?

John Donvan 0:01
Hi, everybody. John Don Van here. And I just want to say I hope you enjoyed our recent debate episode titled The Pursuit of Happiness, Virtue or Pleasure. It featured Jeffrey Rosen from the National Constitution Center. And Jeffrey has a new podcast I wanted to mention. It's called The Blessings of Liberty. It's produced with our friends here at FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. So recently in the podcast, Jeffrey sat down with Ken Burns. Yes, that Ken Burns, the guy who makes the documentaries. And they had a conversation that we are quite interested in sharing with you today. They were celebrating America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary. Doing it by walking through the Declaration of Independence clause by clause and exploring the ideas and the history and the stories behind America's founding.
John Donvan 0:46
We hope you find this one as engaging and illuminating as we did. So please enjoy.
Jeffrey Rosen 0:57
Хело френс, ам Джефри Розен. Senior Fellow at FIRE and CEO Emeritus of the National Constitution Center, and welcome to the Blessings of Liberty, conversations on the Constitution, history, and the American idea. This podcast would not have been possible without the generous support of our presenting sponsor, Fire. That's a non-partisan non-profit dedicated to defending and promoting the values of free speech for all Americans in our courtrooms, on our campuses, and in our culture. Learn more about FIRES work and get involved at fire.org forward slash blessings. This week, френз, ам трюд тю оформ А ту харинфит аніверсері спеша. For the ages.
Jeffrey Rosen 1:43
It's such an honor to be here with Ken Burns. Ken Burns is America's storyteller. He has produced Pathbreaking documentaries on the Civil War, on jazz, on baseball. His most recent work is The American Revolution. And we're here in Aspen, Colorado, to do a deep dive into the Declaration of Independence, parsing it clause by clause. I am so inspired and moved every time I have the privilege of sitting down with Ken, and I can't wait to share this conversation with you.
Jeffrey Rosen 2:22
Ken Burns, it is such an honor to welcome you to the blessings of Liberty.
Ken Burns 2:26
Other way around.
Jeffrey Rosen 2:27
We're here in gorgeous Aspen, Colorado. We're recording this episode for our July 4th special for America's 250. I can't imagine anyone I would rather be in conversation with to distill the essence of the American idea. And what I want us to do in during these precious uh moments with each other. Is to go through the Declaration of Independence clause by clause and tell our listeners what we've learned about its essential ideas. So let's begin with the first sentence, uh, which is not often the one that people begin with. And I'm just gonna read it. Ан і це When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people. To dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another.
Jeffrey Rosen 3:15
And to assume the powers of the earth The separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's God Entitled them. A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to separation. I want to focus just on that phrase one people.
Jeffrey Rosen 3:44
And Nationalists from James Wilson to Alexander Hamilton to Daniel Webster to Abraham Lincoln invoked the idea that we are one people. To insist that A secession was unconstitutional. And that the Articles of Confederation themselves were a departure from the national unity declared by the Declaration, which John Quincy Adams said preceded the Articles of Confederation and ensures that we are indeed one united people. Reflect on that phrase and on the rest of that beautiful sentence. Well,
Ken Burns 4:16
first of all, it's a wonderful first sentence, and you're right, we we know how important the second sentence is, one of the most important sentences in the entire English language. But the first sentence is really setting up and there's a kind of obligation, there's a kind of politeness, there's a sense too that with all this we need to explain ourselves.

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